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Chistians, how do you conclude Jesus is god?

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Amen me too we are brothers of the same spirit
You have done something amazing today friend. Jesus says if you never deny me in front of the presence of another man I will never deny you in the presence of my Heavenly Father.

God is proud of you.
 
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Do you believe in Jesus Christ?

Yes, I'm a Christian.

Do you believe that it’s possible to lose your salvation?

If one rejects their salvation, yes.

What, exactly, in my post elicited these questions?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Yes, I'm a Christian.



If one rejects their salvation, yes.

I don't understand what in my post, however, elicited these particular questions.

-CryptoLutheran
Don’t worry about it have a good day
 
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How do you think he performed a miracle see if it were not from God? Or his miracles from evil or from God?


As I explained, it is the christian concept of God's love that is so high and strong that makes me believe that Christ is the true God. It follows that, since Chirst is the true God, He can perform miracles, because God is omnipotent.

Do you personally know Jesus Christ?

I feel His Presence, expecially during my prayers.
 
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As I explained, it is the christian concept of God's love that is so high and strong that makes me believe that Christ is the true God. It follows that, since Chirst is the true God, He can perform miracles, because God is omnipotent.



I feel His Presence, expecially during my prayers.
I like what you’re saying what else.
 
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I like what you’re saying what else.

I think Christ's passion represents the essence of the christian faith and it is then fundamental to understand its meaning. My interpretation is the following:
I believe that God loves us infinitely, and He desires to lead each of us to the true life and true happiness, a condition existing only in communion with God. But God cannot tolerate evil and sin, because they are incompatible with His good and holy nature. A deep interior change is then necessary for all of us to reach the eternal happiness; we must be sanctified and purified from all our evil and sinful desires. God has the power to change us but He wants to do that with our consent. In fact God has chosen to create man with a free will, He wants to respect our free will. Man cannot really accept to be changed by God and he cannot be in comunion with God as long as even a shadow of doubt and distrust remains in his heart ( it must be stressed that such a distrust may exist even without the man is aware of it, at the unconscious level).
In order to destroy every shadow of doubt and distrust in our heart, God has chosen to give us the greatest proof of love that may exist: Christ's Passion. Christ's Passion has reconciled us to God because it has uprooted from our heart our distrust and doubts about God's love; it has satisfied our (conscious or unconscious) desire and need of a proof of love, so that it has given us the strength to trust God and feel loved by Him.
I believe that each of us needed to know that God was willing to accept such a terrible suffering for us, in order to really trust God. Every man needed that proof of love, and God, who knew this, has accepted to give man what he consciously or unconsciously asked to Him. Jesus had to suffer and die that way to convince us about God's goodness and God's love towards us. It is man's obstinate distrust against God that has forced God to give man that proof of love, the proof he needed to trust God. By His death on the cross, Jesus destroys our distrust and our doubts, and He gives us the strength to believe in Him and trust Him. This means that each of us is personally responsible of Jesus' sufferings and death. This distrust, this lack of faith in God, as well as the excess of trust in oneself, is just the essence of the original sin. Blinded by his pride, man rejects God's authority and prefers to trust himself, instead of His Creator; man deludes himself to be able to be independent from God, to be the god of himself. But God only is the source of all true good and true love. Man is unable to pursue the true good with his only strengths; man needs God, His grace, His teachings, His spiritual help, and so, after his rebellion against God, he gets deeper and deeper into a vortex of sin, which he can get out of only if he allow God to change his evil and impure heart.
Chirst suffered and died to help us to believe and trust Him and to make us understand that He loves us infinitely and He is good and mercifull, so that we may open our heart to Him.
 
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I think Christ's passion represents the essence of the christian faith and it is then fundamental to understand its meaning. My interpretation is the following:
I believe that God loves us infinitely, and He desires to lead each of us to the true life and true happiness, a condition existing only in communion with God. But God cannot tolerate evil and sin, because they are incompatible with His good and holy nature. A deep interior change is then necessary for all of us to reach the eternal happiness; we must be sanctified and purified from all our evil and sinful desires. God has the power to change us but He wants to do that with our consent. In fact God has chosen to create man with a free will, He wants to respect our free will. Man cannot really accept to be changed by God and he cannot be in comunion with God as long as even a shadow of doubt and distrust remains in his heart ( it must be stressed that such a distrust may exist even without the man is aware of it, at the unconscious level).
In order to destroy every shadow of doubt and distrust in our heart, God has chosen to give us the greatest proof of love that may exist: Christ's Passion. Christ's Passion has reconciled us to God because it has uprooted from our heart our distrust and doubts about God's love; it has satisfied our (conscious or unconscious) desire and need of a proof of love, so that it has given us the strength to trust God and feel loved by Him.
I believe that each of us needed to know that God was willing to accept such a terrible suffering for us, in order to really trust God. Every man needed that proof of love, and God, who knew this, has accepted to give man what he consciously or unconsciously asked to Him. Jesus had to suffer and die that way to convince us about God's goodness and God's love towards us. It is man's obstinate distrust against God that has forced God to give man that proof of love, the proof he needed to trust God. By His death on the cross, Jesus destroys our distrust and our doubts, and He gives us the strength to believe in Him and trust Him. This means that each of us is personally responsible of Jesus' sufferings and death. This distrust, this lack of faith in God, as well as the excess of trust in oneself, is just the essence of the original sin. Blinded by his pride, man rejects God's authority and prefers to trust himself, instead of His Creator; man deludes himself to be able to be independent from God, to be the god of himself. But God only is the source of all true good and true love. Man is unable to pursue the true good with his only strengths; man needs God, His grace, His teachings, His spiritual help, and so, after his rebellion against God, he gets deeper and deeper into a vortex of sin, which he can get out of only if he allow God to change his evil and impure heart.
Chirst suffered and died to help us to believe and trust Him and to make us understand that He loves us infinitely and He is good and mercifull, so that we may open our heart to Him.

sounds like what you’re telling me is you believe in Jesus am I right?
 
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Even if I concede that Jesus said that he was god and that he performed all the prophesies and miracles described in the bible... that would make him pretty special, but how does that prove that he was the human incarnation of the creator of the universe? Isn't this a god-of-the-gaps argument... you can't explain something so you conclude that he must be god because you can't think of a better explanation? And according to the bible, Pharohs magicians were able to turn their staves to snakes, which is just as remarkable as any of the miracles that Jesus performed. This means there are humans with supernatural powers out there who obviously aren't divine. So why believe Jesus was divine?
The Biblical Basis of the Doctrine of the Trinity by Robert Bowman, Jr.
 
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