Chick Tracts

[Cody2]

Jack Chick believes Salvation is by Faith alone in Jesus Christ.

Sorry, I misunderstood, but I don't know how I gave you that implication.

 

[No Swansong]

Sorry, I misunderstood, but I don't know how I gave you that implication.

No problem Cody2 it seems I was the one who misunderstood.

 

[WannaWitness]

Sister, I don't want to seem like I'm trying to start a debate, but Jack Chick believes Salvation is by Faith alone in Jesus Christ. He believes as a Christian we should not read the new versions nor listen to music with the world's beat in it. Those things do not keep you saved, but will help you grow as a Christian.

God bless

I believe he's doing what he feels is right. However, just because I don't have those exact convictions doesn't mean I'm less holy, or not growing in the Lord. We need to concentrate on the beam in our own eye before we point at the specks in our brother's eye (Matthew 7:1-5), nor should we condemn each other just because we have different convictions (Romans 14).

Let's agree to disagree, and God bless.

 

[Tabasco]

Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast." KJB

Show me in the Pauline Epistles where Salvation isn't by Faith.

Technically we are not saved by faith, but rather by grace through faith.

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

Technically we are not saved by faith, but rather by grace through faith.

Exactly so! And this being the fundy board, I think you'll find universal agreement on that point.

But like many others, I'm repelled by Chick's anti-Catholicism, and I think his extra convictions that he likes to harp on are all wrong. That includes KJVO, anti-contemporary music and anti-roleplaying. The problem is he pushes them, not as his personal convictions, but as essentials.

I am still willing to use Chick tracts that avoid all those subjects.

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

I am a guest here, and under obligation to refrain from debating, but

 

[FundamentalistJohn]

Tabasco;
Izzy is a long welcomed guest on the Fundamentalist Forum and as a guest she is very careful to observe the rules of the board and avoid debate. Generally we try not to ask question such as yours that puts her in such a position. I realize you are new this is not meant in a confrontational manner only to inform.


FJ

 

[Rhamiel]

um... I know I can not debate here,
I am not defending the doctrines of the Catholic Church
but just from a historical view, a lot of stuff Chick says is just bad History, his main source for Catholic History was a con man, saying the Communist Revolution in Russia was supported by the Catholic Church??? just bad history

 

[VCViking]

I've read a lot of these tracts. Presonally, I think they are telling the truth. But what do ou think about them?

I use them for halloween. Though I prefer Way Of The Master tracts.

 

[TheSearcher]

Jack Chick's tracts are VERY effective with people deep into the occult, withcraft, paganism, divination, etc. A lot of these people have never really heard about Jesus. They think they are lost and done way to much. They see no way out. Granted some are more adamant than others, but you would be surprised how many secretly want out desperately bad. Occultists have always hated Jack Chick because he has converted very high level ipsissimi, adepts, magi, etc. via his little tracts. Google and/or wikipedia "Jack Chick" and then see what I mean. After all these years, they still try to discredit and make fun of him per chance another lost soul may pick up one of his tracts. I know they have a field day with his patented "Haw! Haw! Haw!" devil laugh...

 

[EvangelicalChristian]

Hey I know they work at least the ones I have used.

 

[Shane Roach]

Great to hear it. As I said before, Chick tracts aren't without a large element of truth. I myself came to faith in Christ because a woman who believes in the prosperity Gospel gave me a Bible. Now I recognize that the prosperity Gospel is blasphemous and utterly abhorrent. But it doesn't change the fact that God sometimes uses strange means to bring us to faith in his Son.

LOL

I was pondering how to respond to the OP as I read this thread, but I find this little example says it all.

He works in mysterious ways sometimes!

 

[tlm09]

I've read a lot of these tracts. Presonally, I think they are telling the truth. But what do ou think about them?

I first discovered the Jack Chick tracts as a young man about twenty years ago. As a catholic, they seemed to represent the hateful rantings of a lunatic. Through the years I have learned more about what motivated Chick and that is likely the love for God, but he has a distorted view of what the Catholic Church actually teaches. However, as a young man finding one of those tracts, they did not open my eyes. They only shocked and offended.

 

[alphonsus12]

I first discovered the Jack Chick tracts as a young man about twenty years ago. As a catholic, they seemed to represent the hateful rantings of a lunatic. Through the years I have learned more about what motivated Chick and that is likely the love for God, but he has a distorted view of what the Catholic Church actually teaches. However, as a young man finding one of those tracts, they did not open my eyes. They only shocked and offended.

Ditto, every time I have seen one they have offended me, even before I became a faithful Catholic. Any one who claims to be Christian cannot rely upon lies when trying to spread the faith, and many of his tracts have been refuted as false by other Protestants.

 

[FundamentalistJohn]

Ditto, every time I have seen one they have offended me, even before I became a faithful Catholic. Any one who claims to be Christian cannot rely upon lies when trying to spread the faith, and many of his tracts have been refuted as false by other Protestants.

There is a difference between being wrong and telling lies. For example I would say that Pope Boniface the VIII was wrong when he wrote in Unam Sanctum "Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff." I would not say he lied. Giving the benefit of the doubt is a thoroughly Christian activity.

 

[alphonsus12]

There is a difference between being wrong and telling lies. For example I would say that Pope Boniface the VIII was wrong when he wrote in Unam Sanctum "Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff." I would not say he lied. Giving the benefit of the doubt is a thoroughly Christian activity.

Granted, however many of his works are at best wild fantasies that have been discredited not only by Catholics, but by other Protestants in publications like Christianity Today, Conerstone, and Forward and yet he still continues to publish them. These publications refuted facts, and he still continues to push forward with them.

 

[edie19]

I first discovered the Jack Chick tracts as a young man about twenty years ago. As a catholic, they seemed to represent the hateful rantings of a lunatic. Through the years I have learned more about what motivated Chick and that is likely the love for God, but he has a distorted view of what the Catholic Church actually teaches. However, as a young man finding one of those tracts, they did not open my eyes. They only shocked and offended.

Ditto, every time I have seen one they have offended me, even before I became a faithful Catholic. Any one who claims to be Christian cannot rely upon lies when trying to spread the faith, and many of his tracts have been refuted as false by other Protestants.

FWIW - I'm not RCC and they offend me, I see no use for them

that said - overall I see no use for tracts period - we have God's Word, that's more than sufficient. If we can't find what we need for evangelizing in Scripture, then we don't need it and shouldn't be using it.

 

[FundamentalistJohn]

Granted, however many of his works are at best wild fantasies that have been discredited not only by Catholics, but by other Protestants in publications like Christianity Today, Conerstone, and Forward and yet he still continues to publish them. These publications refuted facts, and he still continues to push forward with them.

Most of Chicks information on Catholicism comes from a 19th century priest named Fr. Charles Chiniquy. Chiniquy wrote a book entitled 50 years in the Church of Rome. Chiniquy was a legitimately educated and ordained Roman Catholic Priest. That doesn't make his information accurate but it does make it an authentic Roman Catholic resource.

I tend to agree that Jack Chick is a conspiracy theorist. I do not agree that he is purposely propogating information he knows to be wrong. The problem is in convincing him he is wrong. Again there is a large difference between being wrong and being a liar.

With that said none of the publications you have mentioned would ever convince me that I am wrong about anything. I personally detest two of them and consider the third little less than fluff when it comes to rigorous standards. As for refutation from the Roman Catholic Church I hope you can understand why a Fundamentalist wouldn't accept much of what is offered as proof from it.

I am not arguing that Chick is accurate, in fact he isn't, but he isn't a liar he's just wrong.

I could say the same thing about the Roman Catholic Church it doesn't lie, it simply is wrong.

 

[FundamentalistJohn]

FWIW - I'm not RCC and they offend me, I see no use for them

that said - overall I see no use for tracts period - we have God's Word, that's more than sufficient. If we can't find what we need for evangelizing in Scripture, then we don't need it and shouldn't be using it.

I understand your point here Edie but the fact is a tract can be where I am not. I have had hundreds of phone calls over the years as the result of placing tracts and have had the privilege of using many of these phone calls to the best advantage. In fact I know of at least two phone calls that were placed after the fact. These folks found a tract, went to a nearby baptist Church and began their walk with Christ and were simply calling me to let me know and thank me for placing the tract in the first place.

The can be and often are effective.

 

[Antigone]

FWIW - I'm not RCC and they offend me, I see no use for them

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