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Not all women feel as you do. I know plenty of women who have had abortions. I also know women who profess to be anti-choice in public and who make the same arguments you do, but who confide in private that they are pro-choice.smh
Would you be willing to say that to the billions of mothers today and also throughout history who know that the life they carry in the womb is NOT an innocent unborn baby?
I don't mind, but I have my doubts anyone is listening.Now that I know that you have declared yourself to be an atheist, I realize that only the Holy Spirit of God can change your mind on this topic, as well as perhaps many other topics in this website. I hope that you don't mind if I pray to God for you.
At the moment of conception, there is a single cell. Are you saying there are two or more souls in a single cell? If so, wouldn't at least one of the souls be lacking a 'body' to occupy, since it's not the 'owner' of that cell? And setting aside the soul question, you must also be claiming that, biologically speaking, both identical twins physically exist at the moment of conception. This is impossible, since there is only the one cell.I believe that the Lord places a soul within the unborn humans at the moment of conception. That belief holds true for twins, triplets, etc.
You can keep saying it, but that doesn’t make it factual.The baby always dies. Selfish and sad.
Questions and answers about souls cannot truly be answered by scientific and naturalistic points of view, in my opinion.I don't mind, but I have my doubts anyone is listening.
At the moment of conception, there is a single cell. Are you saying there are two or more souls in a single cell? If so, wouldn't at least one of the souls be lacking a 'body' to occupy, since it's not the 'owner' of that cell? And setting aside the soul question, you must also be claiming that, biologically speaking, both identical twins physically exist at the moment of conception. This is impossible, since there is only the one cell.
Since your above position seems to lead to contradictions, you might want to reconsider the moment of ensoulment.
Although you are being honest in your point of view, I am also being equally honest with the point of view that pregnant women who want their baby to be born do believe that there's an unborn human life in their womb.Not all women feel as you do. I know plenty of women who have had abortions. I also know women who profess to be anti-choice in public and who make the same arguments you do, but who confide in private that they are pro-choice.
Well, some do. Others are of the opinion that a foetus is not yet a person. It does not mean they do not expect to love their offspring.pregnant women who want their baby to be born do believe that there's an unborn human life in their womb.
Which would result in the majority of souls never being aware of their life on earth.I believe that the Lord places a soul within the unborn humans at the moment of conception.
Biology says it's a baby and different from its mother. Facts.You can keep saying it, but that doesn’t make it factual.
Not the same thing. An unborn fetus is a baby that is distinct from its mother. Period. Even biology says that.Some years ago I severed the tip of my right index finger clean off.
I didn’t have it cremated or buried, it was my DNA and contained everything I am, yet it wasn’t a human.
(I actually superglued it back on top of the digit to act as a an bandage of me.)
Again, following up a statement with “facts” doesn’t prove or answer anything in the topic of abortion. It may be simpler or easier for some minds to distill it down that way, but it really means very little in the grand discussion which is far more complex than just standing with clenched fists and yelling “it is so because I say so.”Biology says it's a baby and different from its mother. Facts.
No it doesn't.Biology says it's a baby and different from its mother. Facts.
In that case all miscarriages should be given funerals. Why is there nobody urging this?Not the same thing. An unborn fetus is a baby that is distinct from its mother. Period. Even biology says that.
It DoesNo it doesn't.
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I don't mind, but I have my doubts anyone is listening.
At the moment of conception, there is a single cell. Are you saying there are two or more souls in a single cell? If so, wouldn't at least one of the souls be lacking a 'body' to occupy, since it's not the 'owner' of that cell? And setting aside the soul question, you must also be claiming that, biologically speaking, both identical twins physically exist at the moment of conception. This is impossible, since there is only the one cell.
Since your above position seems to lead to contradictions, you might want to reconsider the moment of ensoulment.
No it doesn't.
In that case all miscarriages should be given funerals. Why is there nobody urging this?
Well, why not among Christians? I don't advocate it. It is just that there is an inconsistency here. So much dogmatic insistence on the 'unborn child' while ignoring natural miscarriages.Some religions do practice that. It's not unusual in Japan, for instance, for parents to engage in religious rituals arround miscarriage or abortion. It is called mizuko-kuyo (literally "water baby", a reference to the Japanese Buddhist notion that the unborn child exists in a liminal state of becoming, like a wave appearing on water).
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