"Checks and balances"

[rjs330]

It depends on who the president is.
If the current president was capable of this he wouldn't have outsourced it to a billionaire and his Gen Z computer geeks.

Its funny that you think a president has the time to go into every agency and study it's books. It's a smart president who delegates that to others and has them report to him.

 

[DaisyDay]

That's parently absurd. The preaident is the chief executive. He has the ability to hire and fire all of those beneath him.

No, he does not, at least not legally. He is not an autocrat, at least not yet. There are laws and regulations concerning hiring and firing of civil servants and other federal workers.

He has delegated this to others to handle. For example, of i work for a University the President is the chief executive and has the power over the university and how its run. She probably didn't hire me directly and has delegated that to her departments to do that. But if she decided that I screwed up enough she could see to it that I am fired. She sets the goals, policies, procedures etc for the entire University. Doea she create them herself? No, she delegates. But if she sees a policy or procedure that is not working then she can order it changed. And if it's not she could fire people and hire someone who will follow her orders.

Again, the president of the United States is not all powerful, at least not yet. There are rules and laws that even the president is require to obey, at least for now.

Thats the way things work. The President sets the agenda, goals, policiea and procedures of everything in the Executive branch. Eveyone there works under his authority. He supervises all.of it. And since it is so big he can't do it all himself. So just like the President of the university he delegates to others responsibility to see that his agenda and vision is carried out.

Theoretically, legally, no, that's not the way our federal government works. The president has direct authority over all political appointees, but even then, some are subject to the advice and consent of the Senate. We have laws, rules and regulations that even the president and his advisors are permitted to violate.

 

[Aaron112]

Do Americans actually think checks and balances are important in government or not?

'We' (Americans) are told / taught? / that "checks and balances" are in place to protect what ..... ? law? people? corporatios ? rights?(as if normal people have any inviolable rights?) and so on ad nauseum ad infinitum ad entertainment to distract from reality (reality of loss or lack of rights, etc) ....
Well, to the question: 'checks and balances' are SUPPOSED TO be important and are SUPPOSED TO work.
Problem is with enough money overwhelming the system no one's rights are actually sure - what seems certain today, even for the last decade, can be obliterated/ gone/ destroyed by tomorrow.
Over and over and over tribes and peoples and communities have been upended, tossed, forced gone or moved, often on a capricious whim of one individual with enough money, or 'the needs of the government' , or other.........
Security? Out the window. Best there is ? So what ? Still not right. Too much wrong for generations.

"Do Americans think ......" ?

 

[NxNW]

No he wasn't in charge. He wasn't competent enough to be. His cabinet and Harris was running things.

If only you had proof of these claims.

But he was the figurehead and as such was reaponsible for all the failures.

Funny that you can't list any examples.

 

[rambot]

The majority of Americans wouldn't support and didn't support a lot of the spending from the givernemnt on these things. There are surveys out there that show this.

Just cause the governent spent the money doeant mean it's valuable.

We've gotten a better version of Trump this time around. He's had four years to go over his first presidency and he's doing this differently now. As you say I think he's hiring better people.

LOL! I VERY purposefully chose the word "more competent" because they are NOT "better" people.

Sycophants are never "Better" people. And they are "more competent" at doing what Trump wants unquestioningly.

 

[rjs330]

No, he does not, at least not legally. He is not an autocrat, at least not yet. There are laws and regulations concerning hiring and firing of civil servants and other federal workers.

Again, the president of the United States is not all powerful, at least not yet. There are rules and laws that even the president is require to obey, at least for now.

Theoretically, legally, no, that's not the way our federal government works. The president has direct authority over all political appointees, but even then, some are subject to the advice and consent of the Senate. We have laws, rules and regulations that even the president and his advisors are permitted to violate.

Nope rhe president has rhe power over the executive branch. He can fire and hire as he sees fit. I know there is a government union and all that. But that doeant mean the President still can't fire people as needed.

Take the university president again. The employees probably have a union and an HR department. The president can be made aware of a worker who is in the union wasting university funds or deliberately obstructing the President's vision and agenda. The President can get them fired. The union can appeal the firing and can fight it. But that doeant men they will win. Poor performance, and actually obstructionist behaviors will not be protected.

Rhe president is not as weak as you think he is. And thats part of the issues at play. Some want his power limited to run HIS branch. And some courts have come forward to do juat that. We will eventually see if the courts actually do have that authority to tell the president he doea not have authority over rhe Executive branch.

At this point his constitutional authority is being challenged.

 

[DaisyDay]

Nope rhe president has rhe power over the executive branch. He can fire and hire as he sees fit. I know there is a government union and all that. But that doeant mean the President still can't fire people as needed.

No, the president is not king of all he surveys. There are laws governing civil service. This does mean that the president can't just fire federal workers if, say, they voted for his opponent or have the wrong bumper sticker on their car. There are procedures and protections against the old spoils system.

Take the university president again. The employees probably have a union and an HR department. The president can be made aware of a worker who is in the union wasting university funds or deliberately obstructing the President's vision and agenda. The President can get them fired. The union can appeal the firing and can fight it. But that doeant men they will win. Poor performance, and actually obstructionist behaviors will not be protected.

I don't know the structure of your university as they vary with private universities having more leeway for personal proclivities than public ones (state unis), but "for cause" firings are not what the Doge boys are doing.

Rhe president is not as weak as you think he is. And thats part of the issues at play. Some want his power limited to run HIS branch. And some courts have come forward to do juat that. We will eventually see if the courts actually do have that authority to tell the president he doea not have authority over rhe Executive branch.

What? I'm saying that the president is not king, not autocrat - you are arguing against that? While the president does have authority over his branch, that authority is not absolute, yet. That authority is still subject to laws, rules and regulations.

At this point his constitutional authority is being challenged.

Sure, is the president subject to laws, does he have to obey the laws he is tasked to carry out or is his power absolute? As corrupt as the Supreme Court is, even they may decide that the president is not king.

 

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

Like it or not, the current battle that has been teed up will bring clarity to the limits of executive power that are vested in the POTUS by the US Constitution. Hold on to your seats and enjoy the ride.