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I see your point. I will further consider it. This is not a tattletale or harassment. What her husband does with it is his business. I kind of feel like I/O it to what her husband does with it is his business. I kind of feel like i owe it to him, but more importantly I believe that she will stop contacting me if she feels any threat that I will til her husband. As it stands now, she firmly believe that I will never tell my wife or her husband because it will jeopardize my marriage again. What do I want to happen? If I told him , I would want him to let her know that he knows what she's doing and then leave me alone.
 
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You most definitely are wrong. I could easily get in touch with her if I chose to. My marriage is great and I'm very fortunate where I am. I have no interest in communicating with her. Yet she continues to contact me. As I've already stated, I can't really block her number because she's using a calling card and a new number shows every time. That's how she hides it from him
 
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Having been a willing participant in the only affair he's aware of, there is no way to can call him or inform him.

Why is there no way? I mean, it's awfully awkward, yes, but I don't see how you are unable to tell him. Write a letter, put a note on his windshield.

"Hey, I know I'm not your favorite person, but I thought you should know your wife is still trying to contact me, and I suspect her of carrying on with other men."

Yet I have this longing to right my wrong as best I can...

See, your conscience knows.

I'm not saying you have to, or you are a bad person if you don't, but I don't see that anything prevents you from doing this.
 
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Let's be clear on one thing....I'm not seeking your sympathy. Your original message stated "I'm not sorry for you" but I see that you elected to omit it, but not before I saw it. Secondly, you cannot say with certainty that your friends are non-cheaters too. You can hope and believe that they are better than that, but you don't know. And thirdly, I came to a Christian forum seeking a wise and Christian perspective. Clearly I'm sorry for what I did...I'm pretty sure I captured that in the original post. I see you did nothing to help with the question I had or offer anything except judgment, which is what so many Christians are good at these days. God tells us that looking at someone with lust....anything other than "he/she looks nice today" is adultery and evil. Maybe you can say that you've gone through your life able to turn away each time someone attractive is in your view, or maybe you will be surprised when God shows you how imperfect you really are. And you might be surprised to learn that your perfect marriage friends, aren't really so perfect. I came here seeking advice....not sympathy and not a reminder of what I did wrong. I dealt with this 3 years ago...I turned to Christ and he pulled me through. He gave my wife renewed strength and love. He opened our eyes, taught us, healed us, and has become the center of our lives again. You can try to pull be back to that horrible place and remind me of my past. You can elect to not show grace or support or kindness. I'm more interested in what our God is doing, and what he has already done. If I was pleased with myself and didn't care about my actions, I would not be seeking council and I wouldn't care about a husband that I don't know.

I'm not sorry for you. I edited that sentence out because I thought it might have been too soon to say it :)

Meantime, yes, most of us long-marrieds do know which couples are 'disloyal' (for want of a better description) and which aren't. It comes with age and experience.

And, god doesn't appear to be doing very much, because you remain a human being, just like the rest of us. I show no 'grace' because Christians frequently protest their own moral superiority (simultaneously telling us non-believers how sinful and terrible we are), while living lives that plainly demonstrate they're no better than the least religious person alive. Sometimes worse.
 
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You most definitely are wrong. I could easily get in touch with her if I chose to. My marriage is great and I'm very fortunate where I am. I have no interest in communicating with her. Yet she continues to contact me. As I've already stated, I can't really block her number because she's using a calling card and a new number shows every time. That's how she hides it from him

I don't believe a word of that. I agree with Murby. You may not be consciously aware of it, or you're pretending not to be, but you're revelling in this. And as long as you don't call her, you can convince yourself you're golden.
 
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If this is in the wrong spot, my apologies and feel free to move it. This is tough to admit, but 3 years ago I stepped out on my marriage. I engaged in a 4 month affair with another married woman. Usually it does not matter who initiated the affair, but please stay with me. She pursued me for a couple of months at work before I took the bait. Knowing she was married, and she knew I was married. Eventually we were found out and the affair ended. Naturally, my marriage was in trouble. We had been married for 13 years. We managed to work through it and move on, getting back into church (we had always gone, but I stopped when the affair started). She lives in another town and later on quit work and that was that. During the months between getting caught and her quitting her job, it was evident that she had begun another affair, or a couple of them. Honestly, I was relieved knowing that she wouldn't came after me anymore if she had other men to play with. I felt terrible for my wife, and her husband for what I had done. When I saw her other affairs, I couldn't help but think of how her husband was being treated...and he doesn't even know. He is a high ranking official in the military. Recently, she has started to call me from a new number to hide any evidence from her husband. I've told her to stop calling me, but she occasionally calls or texts. I know it's her, but I can't prove it. I have zero doubt that she continues to cheat on her husband, all while he thinks that they have moved past it. She told me that he drug her to a Christian counselor on base and she pretended to get something out of it. Her husband is completely blind to it. Having been a willing participant in the only affair he's aware of, there is no way to can call him or inform him. Yet I have this longing to right my wrong as best I can, and somehow let him know. I know I would want to be told. Knowing what she is doing to him and doing nothing makes me feel like a player all over again. Any advice would be much appreciated!

Back then, it was wrong of you to interfere with another couples relationship. And so it is now.
 
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You most definitely are wrong. I could easily get in touch with her if I chose to.
How can you make that harder?

I have no interest in communicating with her. Yet she continues to contact me. As I've already stated, I can't really block her number because she's using a calling card and a new number shows every time. That's how she hides it from him
I have no interest in talking to solicitors. They call my cell still. When I see a number I don't recognize, I let it ring. If they don't leave a message, I don't call back. Why do you treat this woman better than I treat random strangers who want to make money off of me?
 
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As I've already stated, I can't really block her number because she's using a calling card and a new number shows every time. That's how she hides it from him
Perhaps consider changing your number, then, so that
she can't get in touch with you from whatever number
she's using that day.

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If this is in the wrong spot, my apologies and feel free to move it. This is tough to admit, but 3 years ago I stepped out on my marriage. I engaged in a 4 month affair with another married woman. Usually it does not matter who initiated the affair, but please stay with me. She pursued me for a couple of months at work before I took the bait. Knowing she was married, and she knew I was married. Eventually we were found out and the affair ended. Naturally, my marriage was in trouble. We had been married for 13 years. We managed to work through it and move on, getting back into church (we had always gone, but I stopped when the affair started). She lives in another town and later on quit work and that was that. During the months between getting caught and her quitting her job, it was evident that she had begun another affair, or a couple of them. Honestly, I was relieved knowing that she wouldn't came after me anymore if she had other men to play with. I felt terrible for my wife, and her husband for what I had done. When I saw her other affairs, I couldn't help but think of how her husband was being treated...and he doesn't even know. He is a high ranking official in the military. Recently, she has started to call me from a new number to hide any evidence from her husband. I've told her to stop calling me, but she occasionally calls or texts. I know it's her, but I can't prove it. I have zero doubt that she continues to cheat on her husband, all while he thinks that they have moved past it. She told me that he drug her to a Christian counselor on base and she pretended to get something out of it. Her husband is completely blind to it. Having been a willing participant in the only affair he's aware of, there is no way to can call him or inform him. Yet I have this longing to right my wrong as best I can, and somehow let him know. I know I would want to be told. Knowing what she is doing to him and doing nothing makes me feel like a player all over again. Any advice would be much appreciated!

Because you sinned against him it's only right that you would tell him what happened - especially if his wife won't.
 
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And thirdly, I came to a Christian forum seeking a wise and Christian perspective.
Then you posted in the wrong section. Post in the Christian only support sections if that is what you desire. This particular forum is a debate forum open to all.

You can ask the mods to move it to a more appropriate section or be open to a discuss of the ethics and morality of the topic, which includes your infidelity.

As to your question, you have already injured this man. Leave him alone now and let him deal with his wife in his own way. Don't force the issue.

Because you sinned against him it's only right that you would tell him what happened - especially if his wife won't.
The husband is already aware of this guy's sin against him. Now he wants to make him aware, rub his nose in it, of what he suspects the wife is still doing.
 
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To the original poster...

If you truly want to "make it right" or make yourself feel better, or you feel you "owe it to this other guy".. why not just send him $50,000 with a letter of apology?

Also, one other thing to consider, several states have "alienation of affection" laws.. if he finds out who you are and you live in one of those states, he can sue you and take much more than $50K from you.

Personally, from listening to you, I think you just feel a need to "remain in the mix" because it must be some kind of entertainment or something.. Contacting the husband of a wife you just banged like a piece of meat is just a bad idea on every level.. He's not going to take it as you trying to help him.. he's going to get very upset.

If you feel that strongly about making it right.. Put $50,000 into an anonymous envelope with a letter of apology.. you'll get to atone for your actions.

But I'm guessing you don't really want the rubber to meet the road or to put your money where your mouth is.. Most people in your situation don't want it to end.. its the same thing that got them there in the first place.
Perhaps once you recognize this, you can adjust your perceptions and move on.
 
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This is tough! I'm sorry if I got lost in the story, but are you saying that after 3 years, of no contact, she is trying to contact you again?!

I'm guessing this is SPIRITUAL WARFARE - I'd guess your marriage and relationship with Christ and His church is growing or is about to, so the devil (our enemy who roams around like a lion seeking to devour) is trying to destroy again.. since he HATES marriage.. since he knows what worked on you before.

As far as telling the husband, it seems your motives are pure, BUT I would say don't. He VERY likely knows, and if he doesn't just pray he will find out. PLEASE let your wife know everything going on here - there can not be any secrets in your marriage.

I know you weren't posting for sympathy, but, as Christians please let us extend grace as our Lord has done us.. and does us ... over and over and over again. His grace is sufficient and His power is made perfect in our weakness.. meditate on all His words, and trust HIM to remove this woman and use this situation to conform you to HIS image.
 
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Oh, boy... What a mess.

Well, I think that you should cut ties with the lot of them (including your wife) and go it alone for a while. Focus on yourself and your walk with God - figure things out mentally, because the fact that you betrayed your wife's trust with some cheap scrubber is an indication to me that you're not in the best place mentally right now. And it's not right that others should suffer at the hands of that.

If you confront this guy you WILL get your head kicked in before you even walk in though the door - so avoid him if you can. Plus, it's his wife that needs to do the explaining. And she WILL get found out one way or another.

Connect with other men at church too, and talk all of this out. Don't be afraid to cut to the bone with them about all of this.
 
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To the original poster...

If you truly want to "make it right" or make yourself feel better, or you feel you "owe it to this other guy".. why not just send him $50,000 with a letter of apology?

Also, one other thing to consider, several states have "alienation of affection" laws.. if he finds out who you are and you live in one of those states, he can sue you and take much more than $50K from you.

Personally, from listening to you, I think you just feel a need to "remain in the mix" because it must be some kind of entertainment or something.. Contacting the husband of a wife you just banged like a piece of meat is just a bad idea on every level.. He's not going to take it as you trying to help him.. he's going to get very upset.

If you feel that strongly about making it right.. Put $50,000 into an anonymous envelope with a letter of apology.. you'll get to atone for your actions.

But I'm guessing you don't really want the rubber to meet the road or to put your money where your mouth is.. Most people in your situation don't want it to end.. its the same thing that got them there in the first place.
Perhaps once you recognize this, you can adjust your perceptions and move on.

This, to the power of ten. The guy is enjoying the drama and the flattery.
 
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2 responses, and yet neither has chosen to offer advice on what (if anything) I should do regarding telling or not telling the husband. Just people that don't know me, us, or the situation, explaining to me who doesn't cheat and the dynamics of who does cheat. For all intense purposes, I'm a pretty smart guy. My wife is pretty smart. We are well known in our church and have a widespread of friends that would be shocked to learn of any of this. I know I shouldn't have done it, and it regret it. I also know why people cheat, and I know why I did it. There are thousands of successful marriages that have a cheating or near cheating story somewhere in their past that tested them, and turned to Christ to strengthen them.
Why don't you just move forward, and devote all of your energy into your own marriage? The fact that you're still thinking about this woman and her husband to this depth, takes the focus off your marriage and Jesus.
 
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That's in part my question. I'm nobody....except the person that his wife cheated with and now has started contacting me again. I think that's pretty substantial. In his mind, she broke it off with me, left her job, has forgotten about me. That has enabled him to forgive her and move on. Guessing of course. If he knew that not only was she sleeping around with others, but that she apparently isn't over the very guy that he does know about....well, I think that puts me in a position to tell him. Maybe not. I could careless that she's still cheating on him. I feel bad for him, but I've got my own life to worry about. But she has inserted me again by calling and texting me.
Block her number. It's not hard to omit this drama from your life. That is, if you want to. You're a 'smart guy' after all. ;)
 
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To the original poster...

If you truly want to "make it right" or make yourself feel better, or you feel you "owe it to this other guy".. why not just send him $50,000 with a letter of apology?

Also, one other thing to consider, several states have "alienation of affection" laws.. if he finds out who you are and you live in one of those states, he can sue you and take much more than $50K from you.

Personally, from listening to you, I think you just feel a need to "remain in the mix" because it must be some kind of entertainment or something.. Contacting the husband of a wife you just banged like a piece of meat is just a bad idea on every level.. He's not going to take it as you trying to help him.. he's going to get very upset.

If you feel that strongly about making it right.. Put $50,000 into an anonymous envelope with a letter of apology.. you'll get to atone for your actions.

But I'm guessing you don't really want the rubber to meet the road or to put your money where your mouth is.. Most people in your situation don't want it to end.. its the same thing that got them there in the first place.
Perhaps once you recognize this, you can adjust your perceptions and move on.

This x 100
 
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If this is in the wrong spot, my apologies and feel free to move it. This is tough to admit, but 3 years ago I stepped out on my marriage. I engaged in a 4 month affair with another married woman. Usually it does not matter who initiated the affair, but please stay with me. She pursued me for a couple of months at work before I took the bait. Knowing she was married, and she knew I was married. Eventually we were found out and the affair ended. Naturally, my marriage was in trouble. We had been married for 13 years. We managed to work through it and move on, getting back into church (we had always gone, but I stopped when the affair started). She lives in another town and later on quit work and that was that. During the months between getting caught and her quitting her job, it was evident that she had begun another affair, or a couple of them. Honestly, I was relieved knowing that she wouldn't came after me anymore if she had other men to play with. I felt terrible for my wife, and her husband for what I had done. When I saw her other affairs, I couldn't help but think of how her husband was being treated...and he doesn't even know. He is a high ranking official in the military. Recently, she has started to call me from a new number to hide any evidence from her husband. I've told her to stop calling me, but she occasionally calls or texts. I know it's her, but I can't prove it. I have zero doubt that she continues to cheat on her husband, all while he thinks that they have moved past it. She told me that he drug her to a Christian counselor on base and she pretended to get something out of it. Her husband is completely blind to it. Having been a willing participant in the only affair he's aware of, there is no way to can call him or inform him. Yet I have this longing to right my wrong as best I can, and somehow let him know. I know I would want to be told. Knowing what she is doing to him and doing nothing makes me feel like a player all over again. Any advice would be much appreciated!
It is not up to you to stir up problems for people to make yourself feel better. Just deal with it.
 
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