Chaos theory contains God of Theism

[ViaCrucis]

DIVIDE GODS INTO IDOLS AND THE GOD (OF THEISM). AND THE ATHEISM WILL DIE OUT.

LOUD NOISES!

 

[joinfree]

Atheism has to exist so that theism can exist.

John:
- Trinity is Verity? Prove then the Trinity to Trinity.
Bob:
- He is automatically proven to exist. Existent things come from God of Theism. Latter is Absolute Good, so devils (and atheists and other unrepentant sinners) can not exist. Devils are problem and can murder, but they do not exist.

The war of Gods: idol of Atheists vs. God of Theists

 

[bhsmte]

The war of Gods: idol of Atheists vs. God of Theists

Enjoy your war.

 

[Rivga]

1. Because any slight change in conditions (like the positions of the atoms) in billion years prior to the first cell creation will catastrophically change the outcome to “there is no first cell”, then the probability of atheism is exactly zero.

Do you understand what you are saying, let me try to put it a different way.
I roll 10 six sided dice and I get a result, (does not matter what result really but here are some numbers from a random generator)

3,4,5,2,3,6,6,3,1,2

Now that I have those numbers sat in front of me, laws of probability tell me that it is approximately 60.5million to 1 to get that specific roll (WOW!!!), so small in fact that my only conclusion is that it must be a divine roll.


If you re-word your statement a little we can disprove God using the same logic:

God is the perfect being, so complex that you cannot comprehend him, therefore the probability that he exists is tiny, so tiny in fact you can say it is zero. Therefore God does not exist!


You have been had by a classic con trick, throw in some science/mathematical words - Chaos theory. Use the logical sounding statement and trust that the person reading it will be emotionally invested in its "Truth" to not fully look into the logic.

 

[joinfree]

Do you understand what you are saying, let me try to put it a different way.
I roll 10 six sided dice and I get a result, (does not matter what result really but here are some numbers from a random generator)

3,4,5,2,3,6,6,3,1,2

Now that I have those numbers sat in front of me, laws of probability tell me that it is approximately 60.5million to 1 to get that specific roll (WOW!!!), so small in fact that my only conclusion is that it must be a divine roll.


If you re-word your statement a little we can disprove God using the same logic:

God is the perfect being, so complex that you cannot comprehend him, therefore the probability that he exists is tiny, so tiny in fact you can say it is zero. Therefore God does not exist!


You have been had by a classic con trick, throw in some science/mathematical words - Chaos theory. Use the logical sounding statement and trust that the person reading it will be emotionally invested in its "Truth" to not fully look into the logic.

1) In Eastern Orthodox Church is known, that God of Theism is not complex, but simple. 2) The Chaos Theory is the model of Reality. In this model the God of Theism is necessary.

 

[bhsmte]

1) In Eastern Orthodox Church is known, that God of Theism is not complex, but simple. 2) The Chaos Theory is the model of Reality. In this model the God of Theism is necessary.

And you are free to believe that.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

1) In Eastern Orthodox Church is known, that God of Theism is not complex, but simple.

Interesting, because sentience requires complexity, and high-level sentience requires high-level complexity - just being a functioning entity of any sort requires a degree of complexity... So you seem to be suggesting that God might be just a basic principle, like the inverse square law.

2) The Chaos Theory is the model of Reality. In this model the God of Theism is necessary.

But non-linear dynamics (the Chaos principle) also literally plays havoc with the idea of God having any long term plan that He can set in motion and expect to play out predictably. An effective God would need to intervene continually, perhaps as per Berkeleyist idealism. Otherwise, there would be no guarantee that man would evolve - or if you propose that God created man explicitly, no guarantee that mankind would survive (and we've been close to extinction more than once).

It's more than implausible, it's contradictory.

 

[Rivga]

Interesting, because sentience requires complexity, and high-level sentience requires high-level complexity - just being a functioning entity of any sort requires a degree of complexity... So you seem to be suggesting that God might be just a basic principle, like the inverse square law.

Guess I don't need to reply to this then, much better than I'd have written anyhow.