Change in America

[USincognito]

HistoryTest

Southern Democrats most supportive of slavery and opposed to civil rights were:

[ ] LIberal and/or progressive

[ ] Conservative, especially socially conservative

Sorry, but twisting facts by the exclusion of other facts that don't fit the narrative is still historical revisionism.

Oh, and MLK wasn't a Republican.

 

[USincognito]

Not following you here.

Of course not. It doesn't fit your narrative.

Switched sides? The history of policies shows a consistent track record with both parties.

Take a look at the electoral map of 1964. Note the states Goldwater won besides Arizona.

"Solid south?"

Yes, the Solid South, which was addressed by the Southern Strategy.

 

[tulc]

What is NOT cute...is that the truth is not respected, and that a people continues to be duped by those whose actions are not for, but against them.

You may have won the votes, you may have fooled the masses, but you have not come away with your integrity.

The truth > http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/dyk-historytest

Wait, you mean that you know what's better for African-American voters then they know for themselves? And your proof for that is "They aren't Republicans and I think they should be, so they've been fooled!"?
tulc(doesn't think that sounds very likely)

 

[Hetta]

You might want to tell him there is another side to it...and the facts of the history of each party are not what most think. If he doesn't know, he should.

But, I never said that (at all). I just gave the other side as presented by black Republicans, of the facts of each parties history.

You don't have to like it, it's just the truth after all.

He doesn't need me to teach him history. He has always known the history and that's why he votes Democrat.

"Truth" is what everyone believes it to be. Nobody wants to read your right wing, rewriting of history articles.

 

[ScottA]

Uh, they have acted in their best interest. For example, you may have noticed one large swath of their constituency just gained the right to marry.

Just because they noticed a growing special interest group who they could (brilliantly) con into voting for them, doesn't mean they really give a hoot about them. Besides, they didn't do them any favors. God set the terms of marriage, and where they may have gained some favor with the democrats, they lost it with God.

 

[ScottA]

More like irrelevant. Democrats have been on their side for the past 50ish years.

More like the past 5 years...when they figured out they could be USED to win elections.

 

[ScottA]

Wait, you mean that you know what's better for African-American voters then they know for themselves? And your proof for that is "They aren't Republicans and I think they should be, so they've been fooled!"?
tulc(doesn't think that sounds very likely)

You are not paying attention, I just quoted the National Black Republicans group.

 

[ScottA]

He doesn't need me to teach him history. He has always known the history and that's why he votes Democrat.

"Truth" is what everyone believes it to be. Nobody wants to read your right wing, rewriting of history articles.

If he doesn't want to hear it from the National Black Republicans group...that's his choice. But they are quoting history, and I am quoting them.

 

[ScottA]

Southern Democrats most supportive of slavery and opposed to civil rights were:

[ ] LIberal and/or progressive

[ ] Conservative, especially socially conservative

Sorry, but twisting facts by the exclusion of other facts that don't fit the narrative is still historical revisionism.

Oh, and MLK wasn't a Republican.

NBRA Chairman Frances Rice
Video: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican
(Affirmed By Dr. Alveda C. King- Niece of MLK)

 

[tulc]

You are not paying attention, I just quoted the National Black Republicans group.

Ahhh! I see. so you just sort of post things and have no real responsibility for anything you post? Because that does seem to be the usual Republican response: "we're the Party of personal responsibility except, well, it's always someone else's fault, not, mine.".
tulc(still waiting to see if there was going to be an answer to his question about how many African-American Republicans there are compared to Democrats)

 

[Armoured]

Yes I'm sure that blacks are devastated that they "sold out" by obtaining the right to vote.

Women, too.

 

[tulc]

NBRA Chairman Frances Rice
Video: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican
(Affirmed By Dr. Alveda C. King- Niece of MLK)

been here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.#Politics

Although King never publicly supported a political party or candidate for president, in a letter to a civil rights supporter in October 1956 he said that he was undecided as to whether he would vote for Adlai Stevenson or Dwight Eisenhower, but that "In the past I always voted the Democratic ticket."[63] In his autobiography, King says that in 1960 he privately voted for Democratic candidate John F. Kennedy: "I felt that Kennedy would make the best president. I never came out with an endorsement. My father did, but I never made one." King adds that he likely would have made an exception to his non-endorsement policy for a second Kennedy term, saying "Had President Kennedy lived, I would probably have endorsed him in 1964."[64] In 1964, King urged his supporters "and all people of goodwill" to vote against Republican Senator Barry Goldwater for president, saying that his election "would be a tragedy, and certainly suicidal almost, for the nation and the world."[65] King supported the ideals of democratic socialism, although he was reluctant to speak directly of this support due to the anti-communist sentiment being projected throughout America at the time, and the association of socialism with communism. King believed that capitalism could not adequately provide the basic necessities of many American people, particularly the African American community.[66]

or here:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/08/28/2540251/martin-luther-king-republican/

King did, however, weigh in on the Republican party during his lifetime. In Chapter 23 of his autobiography, King writes this about the 1964 Republican National Convention:

The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.

Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.

King barnstormed the country on behalf on Johnson in 1964, “maintaining only a thin veneer of nonpartisanship,” according to biographer Nick Kotz. King called Johnson’s win a “great victory for the forces of progress and a defeat for the forces of retrogress.”

tulc(can supply more if asked)

 

[Vylo]

More like the past 5 years...when they figured out they could be USED to win elections.

1964 for more than 5 years ago.

Just because they noticed a growing special interest group who they could (brilliantly) con into voting for them, doesn't mean they really give a hoot about them. Besides, they didn't do them any favors. God set the terms of marriage, and where they may have gained some favor with the democrats, they lost it with God.

I think they are much more pleased with being able to be married than they are dismayed with what your opinion of god's opinion of them is.

 

[JustOneWay]

It is a shame, but the political genius of the Democratic party, is changing America. Somewhere in their history, someone discovered that the more people their policies appealed to, the more votes they would get. Brilliant. Unfortunately, it is changing the way Americans think.

Apparently, you think you discovered some great secret....one that politicians have known and used from the beginning?

 

[Arcangl86]

Just because they noticed a growing special interest group who they could (brilliantly) con into voting for them, doesn't mean they really give a hoot about them. Besides, they didn't do them any favors. God set the terms of marriage, and where they may have gained some favor with the democrats, they lost it with God.

That's odd, I didn't realize God was registered to vote in the United States.

 

[Cearbhall]

Here are the facts...you should take the test:

HistoryTest
BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."

1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party

2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party

You call this an untold story? In what world? Most people in the U.S. have completed elementary school, last time I checked...

 

[ScottA]

Wow, I shook the Democrat tree, and look what fell out. These are the loving, caring, folks who want your vote. I rest my case.

 

[Vylo]

Wow, I shook the Democrat tree, and look what fell out. These are the loving, caring, folks who want your vote. I rest my case.

Your case only made the democrats seem better....

 

[Freodin]

Republicans don't want your vote. They don't care about your vote. They just exist to help y... err, to protect your liberty to do whatever you want to others, provided you have the money and the power to do so.

 

[Armoured]

Republicans don't want your vote. They don't care about your vote. They just exist to help y... err, to protect your liberty to do whatever you want to others, provided you have the money and the power to do so.

As long as "do whatever you want to others" doesn't involve anything they find distasteful.