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Challenge to Atheists on Morality

keith99

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The idea that objective somehow means good is a subjective idea.

And one that nay thinking person will quickly reject.

BTW any subjective set of values can be made 'objective' one merely needs to explicitly enumerate them and make the objective measure compliance with the enumerated values.
 
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Atheists, What makes something Objectively Right or Wrong?

What makes Harming others Objectively Wrong?

What makes Helping others Objectively Right?

What makes Love Objectively Right?

What makes Hatred Objectively Wrong?

5 simple questions.

Living in a very subjective world.
Helping someone may hurt other creatures or situations.

Love comes in many forms. Love often leads to pain and obsession.

Hatred comes in many forms and degrees. I hate certain foods, attitudes, and practices. As long as I am not infringing upon other people's rights, what harm am I doing?
Anger and hate are also part of the process of internal resolution. These emotions can be a defense mechanism, an avoidance of pain for myself and others. Though, it is important to find the way to the other side, where indifference or resolution can be found to avoid the emotions from being detrimental.
 
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keith99

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It's wearisome hearing this canard constantly bandied about by apologists. A cursory inspection of their claims shows that their criticisms of secular morality are just as applicable to their own religiously based moral systems, perhaps even more so. Rather than asking us how we are able to distinguish right from wrong perhaps they should be asking each other, given that there is little agreement among theists on what God considers 'good.'

Or put differently they have no objective standard, it is all subjective interpretation!
 
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