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crazyfingers said:I'll accept that you concede the point.
Have I suggested otherwise? I have not suggested that users should not be accountable for their actions. All I have suggested is that accountability should to be consistent and in line with a well communicated prevailing practice. Otherise it is or will be seen to be arbitrary and subject to the whims of the the moderators.
By raising the issue in the first place perhaps?
Then perhaps your comment "But, A certain amount of diplomacy has to be exercised also when wanting some changes. Erwin is right to be upset about this. Pushing the buck to far is not going to net anything. Right ??" was unnecessary?
Once again, No. Warnings are based on the moderators' interpretations of the rules and whether a comment from a user was a violation. The issue is whether one moderators' interpretation is consistent with other moderators' interpretations; whether that interpretation is consistent across other cases and whether there exists a well communicated prevailing practice of interpretation on that rule or whether the judgment of the moderator is largely arbitrary.
As it is, there is little, by way of the current system, to know whether it is arbitrary or not. There is largely no mechanism to force a prevailing practice on the moderators or a system to communcate that to the users.
No system will ensure perfect consistency, however any system that strives for consistency of interpretation, and communication of that interpretation to the users at large, needs to have a mechanism to do that. I have not seem such a mechanism here.
Good. Then I suspect that you support changes that will create a mechanism that will tend to cause consistency in the interpretation of the rules? What better mechanism that a higher level of transparency?
The above comments appear to have nothing to do with anything that I have said and appear to suggest that have argued against those comments. I have not. The above appears to be a red herring.
Assuming things and taking things for granted I am conceding is quite wrong.
I have not conceded anything. I am not going to continue the discourse since it will net nothing. Bye.
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