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Meepy

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I meant more that it is controversial among traditional Catholics.

For example, The New Catechism: Is it Catholic? by Fr. Michel Simoulin, SSPX.

The Semi-Catholic Catechism of the Catholic Church by Craig L. Heimbichner (will attempt to print, just hit 'cancel')

Homosexuality is an interesting topic, as it was revised in the New Catechism:



The bolded part was removed in the 1997 revision so that #2358 reads:



The phrase "They do not choose their homosexual condition" was removed, as it is vague and debatable. The whole section here is very much soft-sold. For example, what does it means that homosexuals "must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity" and that "[e]very sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided"? Would that include banning same-sex marriage and sodomy? Should they be allowed to teach children? This paragraph brings up more questions than it answers.

There are many other subtle problems in the New Catechism. It takes a casual tone that is supposed to be more readable and friendly to laymen but at the expense of doctrinal precision, creating confusion in the process about what the Church really teaches.

That is why if you really want to get down to it, the Roman Catechism coupled with Spirago's The Catechism Explained is good.

As mentioned by someone else, This is the Faith by Canon Francis Ripley is also pretty good for a friendly introduction. My pastor uses it in convert instruction and has taught other classes from it (he also recommended the Spirago book above).

Denzinger and Ott are also indispensable.

But the real foundational works are St. Thomas' Summa Contra Gentiles and Summa Theologica. You can't go wrong with the Angelic Doctor!


yea I have the revised second edition by Pope John Paul II. The white one with the gold edges. I think I'm gonna buy the denzinger book later on. I have the Summa of the Summa by Kreeft, Fundamentals of Catholic faith by Ott, Decrees of the Ecumenical councils by Norman Tanner, and The Christian Faith by Jacques Dupuis. I have already read nearly all of them.
 
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yea I have the revised second edition by Pope John Paul II. The white one with the gold edges. I think I'm gonna buy the denzinger book later on. I have the Summa of the Summa by Kreeft, Fundamentals of Catholic faith by Ott, and The Christian Faith by Jacques Dupuis. I have already read all of them.

Finding yourself a good traditionalist priest to teach you is also important. You don't want to learn all this stuff and then go to a bad RCIA class where they tell you things that are different.
 
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Finding yourself a good traditionalist priest to teach you is also important. You don't want to learn all this stuff and then go to a bad RCIA class where they tell you things that are different.

ha true, my RCIA was ok. The main book they had us study was "Believing in Jesus" by Leonard Foley.
 
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Hmmm... well it's good that you are looking to supplement what you learned then.


considering the RCIA director said she was voting for Hillary Clinton made me think I should probably supplement some, lol. She had told me actually during a retreat. I was gonna bring up that Hillary was very pro-abortion, but there were other people at the table and I was worried it might turn into a debate or something.
 
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yea I have the revised second edition by Pope John Paul II. The white one with the gold edges. I think I'm gonna buy the denzinger book later on. I have the Summa of the Summa by Kreeft, Fundamentals of Catholic faith by Ott, Decrees of the Ecumenical councils by Norman Tanner, and The Christian Faith by Jacques Dupuis. I have already read nearly all of them.
Just keep in mind that one can get lost in studying the Faith and not actually live it.

I am a firm believer in life long learning, but these things are meant to be tools to spur on your ongoing personal conversion. I only mention this because I think studying the Faith can be a trap, which keeps us in an intellectual relationship with God and the Church, when what we really need is a heart relationship. We can feel like we're uber Catholic because of the knowledge that we possess, but fail to bring Christ to and see Christ in those in our midst.

Learn a lot, study a lot--but then go out and change the world through love and living the Gospel with your very life.
 
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Most homeschoolers and even one parish around me also still use the Baltimore Catechism. IMO it's a lot better than most of the present day books they use at CCD.

Still have all my copies (and yes I still remember most) and the local Catholic bookstore still sells Baltimore Catechisms, so I know that they are not out-of-print. (Bought the #2 one--there's a #1 or the younger grades, a #2 for those a little older and for Confirmation, and one for adults #3--for my granddaughter not too long ago.)

I have them and I love them... its a shame that Catholic schools and CCD's won't use them.
 
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ha true, my RCIA was ok. The main book they had us study was "Believing in Jesus" by Leonard Foley.

They gave me that in RCIA too. You need to get a Baltimore catechism and they are free online versions or they cost like 3-5 bucks.

That, Believing in Jesus book... its okay (a little bit liberal leaning) but for basic teaching- get a Baltimore.
 
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