Catholicism wrong?

[Lisa0315]

This thread is about the Protovangelium of James (Protovangelium = Gospel of the Begining). It is a text (very used in the early church also read in services) that is like a novel about the borning of Mary and of Jesus.
I advice you to read it, it is really like a novel (http://www.gospels.net/translations/infancyjamestranslation.html)
This text was written on about 150 ad, so very shortly after other NT books.
When later the Church defined the canon of the NT, this book was left out. So it is NOT a doctrinal book for RCC.
This text tell the story of Mary in many details, and affirm the virginity of Mary.
There is NO Catholic position on it.


Remember that highlight the verginity of Mary is a way for highlight that Jesus is God.

I agree that the Messiah was to be born of a virgin and it was to be a sign to us. However, the claim that the perpetual virginity of Mary is equally a sign, that is what I do not understand. Is the perpetual virginity of Mary a tradition or is it a necessity for the Messiahship of Christ? If it were to be proven that Mary's virginity were NOT perpetual, and I am not saying that it is or it isn't, but would this negate the Messiahship of Christ?

That seems to be the current controversy.

Lisa

 

[a_ntv]

I If it were to be proven that Mary's virginity were NOT perpetual, and I am not saying that it is or it isn't, but would this negate the Messiahship of Christ?

In my opinion this could not negate the Messiahship of Christ.

It is a fact that RCC, EOCs, OOCs have always thought to the virginity of Mary as perpetual. In the oldest liturgies she is told 'Aeiparthenos' a greek word for "without childbirth", and probably there is some defiition about that in some council (perhaps Council of Costantinopolis, VII century)
They have always teached that Mary was sinless, but to have other sons is not a sin.

 

[Lisa0315]

In my opinion this could not negate the Messiahship of Christ.

It is a fact that RCC, EOCs, OOCs have always thought to the virginity of Mary as perpetual. In the oldest liturgies she is told 'Aeiparthenos' a greek word for "without childbirth", and probably there is some defiition about that in some council (perhaps Council of Costantinopolis, VII century)
They have always teached that Mary was sinless, but to have other sons is not a sin.

Thank You. I really appreciate that. As long as the perpetual part is not the sign, we are good.

 

[Carrye]

Thank You. I really appreciate that. As long as the perpetual part is not the sign, we are good.

Yeah, I can't think of why it would be either. It really has more to do with the fidelity of God than with Christ's Messiahship.