Catholic?

[Anthony Edgar]

And a LOT of the RCC teachings have been added by Popes because they just wanted to.

What about "Indulgences"????

Indulgences have been part of Catholic doctrine since the Crusades. When the Church offered them for sale in the 1500s — call it mercy for money.
Breaking News, Analysis, Politics, Blogs, News Photos, Video, Tech Reviews - TIME.com

Which Scripture prohibits Indulgences?

 

[Anthony Edgar]

Yes He did. The Protestant church agrees with you. However, they also wrote down there words and teachings in a book called the Bible.

They wrote only SOME of the teachings in the Bible.

Btw, there are literally thousands of non-Catholic churches - which one has the Holy Spirit revealed the "whole truth" to?

And which non-Catholic church can trace its unbroken history back to the apostles?

 

[Albion]

What did the early Christians use as their guide before the NT was written, if not the leaders of the Church?

Well, some of it IS as old as that, but if they relied upon the guidance of the Apostles as well, that doesn't mean that what they taught was different from what later was collected into what call The Bible. Yet, that is what everybody who tries to make a point about "before the NT" wants to suggest.

 

[Albion]

Which Scripture prohibits Indulgences?

Which Scripture authorizes Indulgences? That is the real question.

 

[St. Helens]

MOD HAT ON
Do not personally attack (insult, belittle, mock, ridicule) other members or groups of members on CF. Address only the content of the post and not the poster.
MOD HAT OFF​

 

[concretecamper]

---SE---

Ingulgances deal with SIN....next

 

[Anthony Edgar]

Which Scripture authorizes Indulgences? That is the real question.

Which Scripture authorizes Christians to play tennis?

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

should you become catholic? absolutely!

should you become roman catholic? absolutely not!

 

[Not David]

I don't understand why some users insists on some points like "calling priest father" when there have been threads dealing with it yet the dame users continue to use the same points. It seems like bad faith.

 

[ralfyman]

Actually, no.

The bulk of the N.T. as recognised as inspired very early on. The final decisions did not relate to "doctrines and practices," but to whether they were written by an Apostle (or by a close associate of an Apostle, like Mark or Luke).

It's around 180 for the four gospels, around 200 for the various letters, the present canon accepted by around 400, and dogma on that made more than thousand years later.

Not exactly "very early on."

 

[ralfyman]

I can not agree with your opinion and I do not think many others can either.

Any time the church. ANY church is placed in a position of more power and authority than God Himself, that my friend is a real problem even if you can not see that.

The Roman Catholic Church came into existence in the late 4th century long after the Council of Nicea. The Roman Catholic Church neither invented nor created the Holy Bible. The books of the Holy Bible were well recognized in ancient days as we can well see from early church quotations in Ante-Nicene fathers’ writings.

The Council of Nice did not pick and choose which books would or would not go into the Bible. They simply and publicly testified what books were already recognized by Christ’s universal church, having a great consensus among themselves. The later Roman Catholic Church only gathered the manuscripts.
The Roman Catholic Church did NOT give us the Bible

The Roman Catholic Church started around 50 CE with St. Peter. The gospels were defined around 130 years later, the letters of the NT 70 years after that, followed by acceptance of the Book of Revelations.

Do not confuse your opinions with historical fact.

 

[ralfyman]

should you become catholic? absolutely!

should you become roman catholic? absolutely not!

Illogical. The 23 Eastern Catholic Churches are in full communion with the RCC.

 

[Radagast]

It's around 180 for the four gospels, around 200 for the various letters, the present canon accepted by around 400

The four gospels, Pauline epistles, and 1 John were accepted by 180 at the latest (the date of the Muratorian Canon), but they are quoted as Scripture long before that (e.g. by Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp).

the present canon accepted by around 400

The present NT canon was listed by Athanasius in 367. It's essentially the same list as that given by Eusebius, but accepting books Eusebius had expressed doubts about.

and dogma on that made more than thousand years later.

So you're agreeing that the dogma wasn't the factor that determined the acceptance?

 

[PoppyB]

It didn't work out in the long run for a larger population - socialism never does.

My church is near to that as it can possibly get.

 

[Albion]

Ingulgances deal with SIN....next

So that other readers are not confused by a choice of words like "deal with," Indulgences do not remit sin.

What they are supposed to do is remit some of the punishment--in Purgatory--that the person receiving the Indulgence has coming to him. It could be all of it, or only part of it, depending upon the Indulgence received. (And of course it also depends upon there actually being such a thing as a Purgatory.)

 

[Albion]

The Roman Catholic Church started around 50 CE with St. Peter.

The church at Rome started about then. That is not the same as saying that the denomination/communion that is called the Catholic Church or Roman Catholic Church started then.

If it were the same, however, a bunch of other denominations would be older and would presumably be eligible for the title of "the one true church."

 

[concretecamper]

So that other readers are not confused by a choice of words like "deal with," Indulgences do not remit sin

No one ever said they remitted sin. If that is what you think, may i suggest more study.

As was stated earlier, Jesus gave the binding and loosening power to Peter specifically, and to the Church.

 

[Major1]

I don't understand why some users insists on some points like "calling priest father" when there have been threads dealing with it yet the dame users continue to use the same points. It seems like bad faith.

Or it could also be following the directions and being obedient to the Lord Jesus Christ who said in
Matthew 23:9......….
"And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."

 

[Major1]

They wrote only SOME of the teachings in the Bible.

Btw, there are literally thousands of non-Catholic churches - which one has the Holy Spirit revealed the "whole truth" to?

And which non-Catholic church can trace its unbroken history back to the apostles?

That is incorrect !

I suggest that you do more BIBLE study. When you do you will find that The twelve apostles held a unique position. In referring to the New Jerusalem, Rev. 21:14………..
“The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.”

It was these twelve apostles who were the first messengers of the gospel after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It was these twelve apostles who were the foundation of the church—with Jesus being the cornerstone and it was the Apostles who physically wrote the New Test.

 

[Major1]

Which Scripture prohibits Indulgences?

The Catholic Encyclopedia 1987 says...…….
"The remission of the temporal punishment due for sins and hence, the satisfaction owed to God for one's sins...The Church grants such indulgences after the guilt of sin and its eternal punishment have been remitted by sacramental absolution or by perfect contrition...".

Now to answer your question may I quote for you Galatians 1:6-8.....
" I am amazed that you are so quickly turning away from Him who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another gospel, but there are some who are troubling you and want to change the good news about the Messiah. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel other than what we have preached to you, a curse be on him!"

An examination of the passages the Roman Catholic Church uses to support such doctrines as temporal punishment, vicarious atonement by fellow believers and saints, and Purgatory as well as INDULGENCES illustrates the Catholic reliance on tradition above and beyond Scripture.

Other doctrines, such as the Treasury of Merit, the “pristine and unfathomable merit of Mary,” the “superabundant merit of the saints,” and the existence of indulgences, are foreign to Scripture altogether! Is the doctrine of indulgences scriptural? A consistent and contextual interpretation of Scripture will neither support the teaching of indulgences nor the doctrines it is built upon.

YOUR TURN.
Which Scriptures APPROVE of INDULGENCIES is the better question. What would those Scriptures be????