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Not at all. I'm saying we inherited a table that we didn't need, and it was always in the way, sitting out there somewhere on the floor. So, for 8 years, or so, it has been in a back room somewhere. We might not even be able to find it anymore.You say that as if a table is not recognizable as a table unless its dimensions are exactly the same as the next one, yet you describe a church which uses grape juice, hot dog buns, and individual cups--none of which would have been present at the Last Supper.
Not at all. I'm saying we inherited a table that we didn't need, and it was always in the way, sitting out there somewhere on the floor. So, for 8 years, or so, it has been in a back room somewhere. We might not even be able to find it anymore.
No, I was just saying that, at least with us, communion is something each of us shares with Christ and the rest of our gathered family. We don't try to make a ritual of it.
It's in our hearts, not spread on a sanctified table.
Yeah, lots of us still have some of the residue of the various religions we escaped from. We're kind of a crusty group of refugees.Oh, it's not just in your hearts. You described your ritual pretty well.
Yeah, lots of us still have some of the residue of the various religions we escaped from. We're kind of a crusty group of refugees.
That is a little like saying your meals, or baths, or TV watching, or car washing or lawn mowing are rituals. You do them because they are either necessary, wanted, or something you enjoy.But in fact, you can't hold a communion service that is without all ritual. You have to have the bread and wine, and you have to eat and drink it. You have to distribute it in some way. It occurs at a certain point in the service. All of that constitutes a ritual. It's not as though there's something wrong with ritual. Some certain kinds of ritual, perhaps, but not ritual itself.
Hmm. I know of several, and I probably haven't visited nearly as many Lutheran churches as you have.
And then there are the churches of other Protestant denominations I know which have no center "aisle." There are two I know of within a few minutes' drive.
Honestly curious, as I have no idea, is the existence or lack of, a central "aisle" of any importance or meaning??
Doesn't sound like Bach.
That's okay, Mark. In the roughly 160-year-old church I attend, we hear a Juliard graduate play things I could only dream of playing. But I haven't heard him play even one Bach piece. Then again, I'm lucky I can recognize the Brandenburg Concerto #6, the one I first heard on a mustard commercial.
I know what you mean about Catholic sermons, Mark, especially when I attend diocesan TLMs. I'm sure you know that for a Catholic, the sermon is not the most important part of the Mass. Sometimes it's even optional, because he can say Mass in an empty chapel or even in a prison cell.
I'm happy to hear that you pray liturgically, even in a hospital room, where a sermon might not help the ill person much. About a year ago before my favorite priest passed away in a nursing home, I hoped a priest would pray the TLM there because that would have helped Fr. Sipperly more than any prayer I can pray. I wouldn't have known what to tell that exemplary priest about Holy Scripture that he didn't already know. Instead, I knelt at his bedside to pray litanies for him. After I left that night, he left us at midnight that night, or maybe I need to say "the next morning, January 2, 2013.
Thank yo sooo much, Mark. I'll ask my guardian angel to tell him what you said.May Fr. Sipperly rest peacefully in our Lord's eternal care!
Thank yo sooo much, Mark. I'll ask my guardian angel to tell him what you said.
I hope my latest PM didn't frighten you away when I told you that theologically and politically, I'm counter-revolutionary. Don't expect me to dress as a papal Swiss Guard with bayonets mounted on my wheelchair's back wheels. All I need now is a huge do to pull the chariot while the blades chop ice or whack weeds.
I didn't visit Fr. grave yesterday. I'm not even sure I'm strong enough to pound the cemetery vase's stake into the snowy ground here about 175 miles north of Manhattan.
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