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Does any one out there have a kitty that does tricks? dogs are renown for being able to train, and cats are renown for being independent and unable to train.

I have not trained my cat, but when ever she hears me whistle she runs up and puts her paws on either side on my neck and starts purring. It started when I was playing a tin whistle, and then I tried a recorder, and she did the same thing. Its quiet funny, she can be in a bad mood, not wanting to be picked up etc, and I whistle, and she runs up and starts purring and 'knitting', she also does it when I sing.

I would love to know what other people's cats do.
 

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Kit begs, sits and "bumps" which is when I put my hand palm down and she will stand up and bump against it.

She's a main coon mixed with either siamese or abbysinian, so she's really social. More like a dog...she thrives off attention and isn't the least bit independant.

If you are intereseted in further training your cat, I highly suggest looking into clicker training. I doubt there are any books out there for cats, but you can get a dog one or a bird one and it's the same concepts. I can also give a basic rundown of clicker training and operant conditioning if your interested ;)
 
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Thanks K9 Trainer, but I think my kitty is a little brain damaged, I say that in a good way, but I dont think she would respond to training. I have been able to train her that when she cry's at the door to a room to get in, and I open the door, I count to 5 and then close the door. She now knows that the door will close on 5 and she has to get in, not just sit there and look at me.

She has my husband well trained though, she knows all the stuff he hates her doing (like sitting on top of his stereo) and she only does it when he is in the room. I tell him that she is only doing it because he yells and carry's on. Funny story, I was visiting my family and got a phone call from hubby, saying that bubby (the cat) was sitting on top of the stereo and he could not get her off. I meant to tell him to get the kitchen mits (for holding hot pots, lids etc) but I accidentally said for him to get the Kitten mits, a Freudian slip if ever there was one. Anyway, that is how he gets her off now. The cutest one was when he handed her to me in the bath so she could have her bath, and after she was snotty at him (because she loves me, he is the one to be snotty at) and she was sitting on the stereo, all wet, giving him the filthiest look. It was so great, he was hoping mad, and bubby just kept looking at him, it was like she was saying "well this is what you get when you cross me"

She hates strangers, she will hiss at my husband if he as been away for a while and will only come to me. My sister came to stay with me for a week, we look a like, and bubby would jump up on her lap, then look at her and hiss when she realized it was not me. I was working one night and bubby wanted to sit on someones lap, my sister said that she jumped up, gave her the filthiest look as if to say "I need to sit on someones lap, and right now you are the only one here, but dont you think about touching me". My sister sat in terror for 30 min until my baby had her fix and jumped off.

Anyway, that is my lunatic cat. I love her very much and she loves me back.
 
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I still suggest giving it a try if you are interested in training her. I doubt she is "brain damaged" :p

The key to training animals is knowing how to motivate them. Cats are typically called independant, aloof and sometimes stupid because we don't understand their ways and because they're ways are alot different than ours. Labs are a well loved dog breed because we can relate to them, but take an independant breed like an Akita or Afghan hound and they're labeled stupid.

Clicker training works wonders with any animal as long as you can figure out how to motivate them. With cats an irresistable food works like a charm.
 
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Hi K9 trainer.

I got a very excited phone call from my sister the other day. She has a new kitty who they think is about a year old, he was a rescue kitty and he is very very affectionate. She was unpacking the other day and found her Irish whistle, which is what originally set my kitty off. When she played it, her cat went nuts as well, trying to jump up and moosh his face against hers and nibbling on her ear. I told her about your advice and she would like more information on it. Her cat is very intelligent and I think would respond well to training. Our other cat, the real Raven, does not like any music, she walks out of the room when Mum plays the piano and I tried the Irish whistle with her, she was not impressed. She will tolerate Dad and I playing the clarinet though.
 
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lol she's adorable!!!! :D I love to hear about somebody adopting a rescue kitty!

As I said before, clicker training is a very universal method. It's called operant conditioning. What happens, is that you condition the animal so that the click means they did something correct. It works better than praise or food alone for 2 main reasons...one is because it's more accurate. You can click faster than you can say "good kitty!". It makes capturing the behavior easier and it makes it alot easier and less frusterating for the animal because they'll know or learn very quickly what you want. You click the things you like and they do it again. You don't click a behavior, they'll stop doing it because it doesn't get a reward. Second reason is it helps the animal to focus. Some animals are so food motivated that when you bust out the food, thats all their focused on and they don't pay attention to you. With clicker training, they're working for the click which in turn, gets them the treat. They become focused on getting the click instead of gobbling down food.

The first step to clicker training is getting a clicker and finding what motivates your pet. With dogs you can use a toy, praise or food or a combination. With cats though, food is the most probable motivator along with praise and pets. Next comes conditioning. It's simple enough, click then treat. Click then treat. Over and over again for 5 minutes a few times a day for a few days.

How do you know when the cat is conditioned? Watch her response when you click the clicker. I bet you've already conditioned your cat but using a different sound...the sound of a can of cat food opening. It worked the same way. With repitition, she learned that the sound of the can opening means food. With any cat, you can open the can in the kitchen and she'll run in from where ever she was because she knows she's going to get the food. Same thing will happen with the clicker. Click it randomly when she's awake and she should perk up and come to you.

Then comes the training. Start training as usual and when you accomplish a behavior, click then treat. For example, when teaching sit...use a treat as a lure. Bring it up past her head and start going over her head and she'll follow it right into a sitting position. Say sit as she's sitting then the moment her bum hits the ground, click and give her the treat.

You can also "capture" behaviors. I once taught a dog to scratch himself on command. Just click whenever the animal does the behavior you want. Because the behavior got a positive consequence, the click, it's likely to do it again. See it again? Click it and treat. Pretty soon you'll be able to add a cue and the behavior will be learned.

There aren't any books out there for clicker training cats, but because it's the same psychology, you can still get the basic info from a dog clicker training book. Click for Joy is a good one. As is Getting Started: Clicker training for birds. The latter is the one I recommend getting as it does a very good job of explaining it.

Feel free to ask questions if something doesn't make sense or you want me to go more in dept on something :p
 
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