Cannot Be A Christian If...

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What's the answer? In most areas of the United States you can't live on $15.00 per hour, not without working 60+ hours a week, and you would have to make due without a car. living wage start around $24.00 per hour, and you would still be on the bus, or going broke trying to keep some used hunk of junk on the road.

The answer is... stay focused on our Lord Jesus Christ, all the way to the end.

The powers that be over this world, i.e., Satan's workers, know exactly what they are doing with the world economy, and central control over people's wealth. They are trying to equalize the wealth between nations while placing as much wealth as possible into their own hands. This was the main reason for their removing much of the U.S. manufacturing base to poorer nations via GATT, NAFTA, and CAFTA. This is the reason why many in D.C. are behind allowing illegals coming into the U.S. and giving them free medical, welfare, etc., and making the working people in the U.S. pay for it, reducing our own wealth. It is merely Communism under a new form (i.e., World Socialism). They know what they're doing. Raising the minimum wage would never be enough to balance the rising costs they are creating by weakening the value of the U.S. dollar.
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In 1971, the U.S. went completely off the gold standard that was backing the U.S. dollar. Before that, the dollar had to be backed by existing gold and silver held in store (Fort Knox, etc.). And that backing was only a required fraction. This meant Congress could not simply print more dollars when they wanted for their projects. It meant the U.S. dollar was tied to the stability of gold.

The gold-haters use the excuse for getting off the gold standard being that there is not enough gold to support a growing economy. That's a fallacy, because under gold the value and buying power of money increases. Instead of five dollars for a gallon of gas, its cost becomes something like 25 cents a gallon. Instead having to have $40 to fill up your car, you're only needing around $5. So you're using smaller denominations of money, and less of it, because the buying power of the dollar is stronger. At the same time under a gold standard, not as many dollars are needed for circulation because of that.

Thus Congress doesn't have power to print money for their bailouts of corporations and bankers that steal people's wealth through criminal loans and speculation (like the mortgage crisis), nor foreign dictators that gets a bailout at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer only to need continual refinance of new banker loans so the banks can keep their interest payments going to themselves. Bailouts are allowed by Congress because bankers and corporations that become so huge, they claim it would ruin the U.S. economy if they were allowed to go bankrupt.

The original U.S. founders warned against fiat money. Fiat means issue by decree, like a king might say, "I decree the palace yards off limits!", and it's done. Fiat money means printing money backed by nothing, simply by decree of Congress. The founders supported a gold standard regulating the U.S. dollar. This meant you could only print as many dollars as there was silver and gold to back it. It limited the amount of dollars in circulation, but not the coin denominations of it. And one dollar was worth a whole lot more, so less dollars are actually needed under gold. The actual power of the dollar thus stays in the people's hands.

Under a Fiat Monetary policy, which the U.S. has today, it all begins as Debt with government IOU's called a U.S. Treasury Note. Those are promissory notes, i.e., promises to pay to the order to. They are like writing a check, except there's no actually real money in a bank account somewhere. YOU and ME, WE are the bank account, the TAXPAYER. The Treasury Notes are promises to get the money from the U.S. taxpayer. This is why the IRS was founded, i.e., to support the passing of the Federal Reserve Acts of 1913. The Fed had to have a way to get their Fiat money out of the taxpayer. And since then the U.S. dollar was on a 'fractional reserve' of silver and gold, meaning each dollar was back by only a percentage of gold. Originally, you could turn a U.S. dollar in for a U.S. silver dollar coin. That ended in the 1970's when the Fed took the U.S. dollar completely off of gold backing, and renamed it a Federal Reserve Note.

So in reality, those in government are actually controlling the majority of U.S. wealth of the people through creating dollars out of thin air. Although it is causing super-inflation of the dollar (making it worth less), it puts the control of the majority of dollars in their hands. Commerical banks are allowed to create dollars by bookkeeping entries also, further multiplying the number of U.S. dollars created out of thin air that is causing more inflation. The reality is that when we sleep at night, the value of our U.S. dollar is being lowered, and when we wake up we find that costs have gone up in order to equalize the weaker dollar. But the banks love it, because it gives the power to create more loans so they draw more interest monies, in which they turn around and turn into more loans, and more book entries to create new dollars for their so-called Reserves.

This isn't just happening in the U.S. either. It's about what all central banking is about.


In the 1960's Alan Greenspan, ex-Chairman of the Federal Reserve, said this:

"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. If everyone decided, for example, to convert all his bank deposits to silver or copper or any other good, and thereafter declined to accept checks as payment for goods, bank deposits would lose their purchasing power and government-created bank credit would be worthless as a claim on goods. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.

This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists’ tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists’ antagonism toward the gold standard."

 
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A Communist cannot be a 'true' Christian, for those philosophies are antichrist.

Fortunately America has always been totally against Communism. Our Democratic government even went war against two Communist nations (Korea and Vietnam) and fought a "cold war" against another (USSR) for decades while also punishing Cuba, the closest Communist nation geographically, in the harshest way. You have nothing to worry about here. Marxism does not exist in America or any other democratic nation.

You are totally wrong about the definition of a Christian BTW. Anyone can believe Marxist philosophies do not align with Biblical principals in any way and hate Jesus. He did not die on the cross to give people any properties. You can be a Christian and believe in having a nomadic lifestyle if you want.
 
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Fortunately America has always been totally against Communism. Our Democratic government even went war against two Communist nations (Korea and Vietnam) and fought a "cold war" against another (USSR) for decades while also punishing Cuba, the closest Communist nation geographically, in the harshest way. You have nothing to worry about here. Marxism does not exist in America or any other democratic nation.

You are totally wrong about the definition of a Christian BTW. Anyone can believe Marxist philosophies do not align with Biblical principals in any way and hate Jesus. He did not die on the cross to give people any properties. You can be a Christian and believe in having a nomadic lifestyle if you want.

Funny, your head must be buried in the sand, or you are a Marxist organizer like the ones here...

The matter of Marxism: Black Lives Matter is rooted in a soulless ideology
 
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BLM is not the government, so everything I stated is true.

Again, your head must be in the sand if you think everyone in the U.S. government is a devoted U.S. citizen and patriot like the founders.

I highly recommend you get a copy of The Naked Communist (1958) by the ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen. He was a U.S. government agent in the Lend-Lease program after WWII, and was involved in the debriefing of Whittaker Chambers, a U.S. State Dept. official that was discovered to be a Soviet spy. Skousen helped debrief Chambers, and it was Chambers who was detrimental in revealing that Alger Hiss, another U.S. State Dept. official who represented the U.S. in signing onto the United Nations Charter, was also a Soviet spy.

Whittaker Chambers | American journalist
 
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Again, your head must be in the sand if you think everyone in the U.S. government is a devoted U.S. citizen and patriot like the founders.

Nobody in U,S. government is a Communist. There are no socialists in public offices either. I know enough about political parties and the government to understand those facts.

On topic, there is no reason to think for one second being a democratic socialist or socialist would make a person against Jesus anyway.
 
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A Communist cannot be a 'true' Christian, for those philosophies are antichrist.

Biblical institutions Karl Marx's ideas are against...

1. abolition of private property - God's Word establishes the idea of private property. Alms is also Biblical, which is the donating of private property to those in need. Communism has never fulfilled their idea of the abolition of private property, because they simply seize the property of others for use by the ruling class, the high leaders of the Communist Party, and do it in the name of abolition of private property. When only the ruling class has access to everything, then it's in reality just theft of the people.

2. a progressive graduated income tax - before 1913, the United States had no tax on personal income. That actually is a Communist philosophy from Marx's manifesto. By this method the wealth of the people is re-distributed, which is an attack on property rights. God's Word stands as a protector of property rights. It's a God-given right, not a right only the state can give.

3. abolition of rights of inheritance - this basically is the idea of abolishing one's birthright from their parents. There can't be generations of inheriting land under a Communist system. This platform by Marx was part of his theory of the abolition of private property.

4. confiscation of property by immigrants or rebels - just being an immigrant, or disagreeing with the Communist government creates the situation of their seizing their property. This is part of the abolition of private property idea also.

5. centralization of credit in control of the state - this is the National Bank idea, a state-controlled monopoly over a nation's economic system. In Communist countries the state controls the distribution and control of monetary wealth. In the U.S., a move towards this kind of system of control began with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. The Federal Reserve has the ability to create inflation, recessions and depressions, thus controlling the wealth of the people, whereas only Congress is to have authority to regulate coin money, meaning the U.S. dollar backed by a gold standard. Centralization of credit in control by the banks is against the system of a gold standard, even as Allan Greenspan had said in 1966 before being chosen later as chairman of the Federal Reserve. President Andrew Jackson also fought the idea of the national bank charter the New York bankers wanted towards centralization of the control of wealth.

6. centralization of communication and transportation - government controlled communication laws, and transportation laws, which affect people's ability to conduct free enterprise, which is God's way. In Communist countries, this is strictly controlled like in a Nazi type atmosphere.

7. extension of factories and farms in the hands of the state - in Stalinist Russia, people that had worked farms for generations were moved to the cities to work at factories while other peoples (non-farm workers) were used to replace them in a collective. Many starved because of this. The government took over ownership of the farms, as the abolition of private property means seizing all private property by the government. And they decide how it's to be distributed. God's Word says in His future Kingdom we will plant vineyards and build houses, and we won't labor and another take it away or inhabit, that we will enjoy the fruit of our labor (Isaiah 65:21-23).

8. Equal obligation for all to work - no lines drawn between the work done by men and women, eliminating roles of traditional Christian society per God's Plan. The idea is for the woman to leave the home and go to work in the factory, helping to establish the breaking up of the family unit, which family is a very Biblical principle.

9. combination of agriculture and manufacturing in the hands of the state - the plan for a gradual elimination of divisions between town and country. Since Marx's goal was the elimination of private property, it also means the abolition of individual ownership applied to living and working spaces.

10. free education by government controlled institutions; combination of education with industrial education - this is how The Bible was taken out of the schools. There is nothing written in the U.S. Constitution that says one cannot teach Bible in a school. And with schools controlled only by the state, they can determine what is taught to your children, like idiotic systems such as Common Core. At present in the U.S., only the public school systems are under these state controls, the private schools are not, there are still many Christian Bible teaching private schools. The establishing of the U.S. Department of Education was a move towards Marx's totalitarian controlled public school system.
 
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Being a true Christian is about the condition of your heart not the condition of the country you live in. It is the individual that was redeemed by our Lord, not a whole system of government. It is not the fault of the people who are forced to live in communism or any other totalitarian system. If they have accepted Christ, they are saved.
 
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The fact that you think Great Britain was the first nation to become Christian, at a time when there was no such thing as Great Britain, and then go on to lambast false revisionist history tells me that you probably don't know much about history.

The first nation to convert to Christianity was Armenia by the way.

-CryptoLutheran

Actually it was the City State of the Kingdom of Edessa about two years before Armenia, but close enough since at the time both were under the omophorion of His Beatitude the Patriarch of Antioch.
 
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Being a true Christian is about the condition of your heart not the condition of the country you live in. It is the individual that was redeemed by our Lord, not a whole system of government. It is not the fault of the people who are forced to live in communism or any other totalitarian system. If they have accepted Christ, they are saved.

Yes, I agree a believer on Christ living in a Communist country does not make them a Communist. I never inferred such an idea either.

What I showed is HOW Communist-Marxist theory is ANTI-Christian, ANTI-God's Word. And I don't have to show much history of Communism to proove that. The two are like fire (Christianity) and water (Communist-Marxism), they simply do not mix.
 
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Nobody in U,S. government is a Communist. There are no socialists in public offices either. I know enough about political parties and the government to understand those facts.

That's really funny! You got a lot of catching up to do!

Ana Belén Montes[2] (born February 28, 1957) is a former American senior analyst at the Defense Intelligence Agency in the United States and a convicted spy. On September 21, 2001, she was arrested and subsequently charged with conspiracy to commit espionage for the government of Cuba. Montes eventually pleaded guilty to spying and in October 2002, was sentenced to a 25-year prison term followed by five years' probation.[3][4]

List of American spies - Wikipedia
 
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Time to wake up brethren...


Marxism-Communism is actually a child of western financiers. That's who gave Trotsky $10k in gold leaving New York on his way to Moscow in 1917.

Professor Antony C. Sutton figured the reason why western financiers came up with the idea was to prevent the creation of an eastern competitive economic power against the United States. Thus Communist states during the Cold War had to rely on western economic aid to continue, as their socialist systems did not work. Sutton didn't have the whole story though, because the formation of the EU has created a Socialist state that economically competes with the United States, and western financiers have also helped build the Communist states more under capitalism since the Cold War supposedly ended.

It's obvious today that the world controllers are trying to bring all nation's economies up to an acceptable level for their "one world government" plans. But the more they allow this for Communist nations like Red China and Russia, the more those begin to act like bullies and threaten us. Golitsyn in his New Lies For Old did say final phase of Soviet strategy against the West was to close the symbolic scissors upon the West, which would entail Russia and China together attacking the West. That could be the final event of this present world that our Heavenly Father was pointing to with the Ezekiel 38 & 39 events.
 
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Being a spy does not make someone a Communist, you know. And your example is a Cuban immigrant, so you proved my point.

An American with a top secret security clearance SELLS... U.S. secrets to Soviet Russia. Hmmm...........

Remember what Lord Jesus said, "For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also". (Matthew 6:21). That act makes one a spy for the Communist enemy against the United States. The enemy in Aldrich Ames case was Communist Russia, and he was a KGB double-agent.

But someone who lives... in a Communist country, that does not necessarily make them a believer on Communist idealism, even though many in those countries that are not members of the party do trust in Communist ideology just the same. So I never denied that.

Thus dream on by wrongly thinking I prove your point.
 
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