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Cannabis is not a sin?

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Now if it would just give us a vaccination for malaria and HIV. Effective cure for the more common cancers with no side effects would be nice as well.



Take is as you will.

Some people are immune to HIV already. And if you stay fidelitous and clean you needn't worry. There are plant cures and protections against malaria already as well. There are cures and preventatives for cancer, given by God.

But only with those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
 
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Some people are immune to HIV already. And if you stay fidelitous and clean you needn't worry. There are plant cures and protections against malaria already as well. There are cures and preventatives for cancer, given by God.

But only with those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

Clearly the people dedicating their lives work to solving those problems are simply lacking the site, too bad they did not call you to show them how to do the jobs they trained for years to do.
 
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Clearly the people dedicating their lives work to solving those problems are simply lacking the site, too bad they did not call you to show them how to do the jobs they trained for years to do.

I know, right. It is so obvious and available yet people continue to disbelieve. WORSE: The natural cures are usually the ones government (man without God) like to make illegal! There are a ton of examples of this, in the name of creating a 'safe society'.

Unbelief does not just exist toward God and His forms. Unbelief exists for anything and everything God creates--and gives to us--as well.
 
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I know, right. It is so obvious and available yet people continue to disbelieve.

How is your work with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation going? They are would be falling all over themselves to fund your wonder cures, assuming they worked, or are you just going to sit on them while millions die?

Unbelief does not just exist toward God and His forms. Unbelief exists for anything and everything God creates--and gives to us--as well.

Stop hiding these magic cures and submit your data to the people who can put it to use.
 
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How is your work with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation going? They are would be falling all over themselves to fund your wonder cures, assuming they worked, or are you just going to sit on them while millions die?



Stop hiding these magic cures and submit your data to the people who can put it to use.

They do not have eyes to see it. It's not a matter of putting a potion in someone's hand.
Healing is the domain of Jesus, and God's grace is the only determinant of healing.
If God wanted them to have the knowledge, they would find it. If they find it without God's guidance (but satan's), then they will ruin it for His people, while profiting themselves.

As my friend is always telling me, this is a spiritual battle.

~Selah
 
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They do not have eyes to see it. It's not a matter of putting a potion in someone's hand.

Except when it is. I am looking at you variola!

Healing is the domain of Jesus, and God's grace is the only determinant of healing.

A variable that oddly remains totally undetectable when treatment is studied. Oddly medicines work the same on atheist bodies and Christian ones. Its almost as if we have the same physiology and disease has physical origins.

If God wanted them to have the knowledge, they would find it.

To be clear, you're saying that you deity wants the deaths from malaria to continue?
 
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Cannabis is a mood altering drug and if you can't stop doing it without becoming angry, irritable and discontent its probably not as Care Bear as you think it is.

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While marijuana is safer than alcohol consumption (psychologically and physically) and I think it ought be legalized, you are right about the characteristics of addiction.

That can be with lifting weights, jogging, snorting cocaine, or drinking beer.

But guess where you also clearly see those signs of withdrawal and psychological attachments?

With heterosexual sex and homosexual sex.

The heterosexual or homosexual or bisexual monk is the equivalent of a 10 and 20 year sober member (and "sponsor") of Alcoholics Anonymous.

The tricky thing is you can drop into a violent seizure and die from alcohol withdrawal but you can't from heterosexual or homosexual sexual withdrawal.
 
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^ There is no reason you should take any man-made drugs.

God gives us everything we need here on earth already.

Or do you lack faith in Him?

And God made doctors and scientists who can use the knowledge they gain about the natural things we have and apply these things in ways that help us immensely.

To reject modern medicine is not an act of piety, but an act of stupidity.

The following is not a statement that comes from faith: "I don't need a parachute when I fall from this plane, God will slow my fall!", that's just being an idiot.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Some people are immune to HIV already. And if you stay fidelitous and clean you needn't worry. There are plant cures and protections against malaria already as well. There are cures and preventatives for cancer, given by God.

But only with those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

Can you tell us about the cures and preventions of cancer that are given by God?
 
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Some people are immune to HIV already. And if you stay fidelitous and clean you needn't worry. There are plant cures and protections against malaria already as well. There are cures and preventatives for cancer, given by God.

But only with those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

And to those of us who have lost family to cancer we'll kindly let you know how stupid the whole homeopathic "just use prayer" method is. And, again, I have no intention of mincing words.

You can teach bad theology all you want, but the moment your bad theology starts to have serious life or death consequences it's not simply a matter of bad theology any more.

Listen people, get yourself and your children vaccinated. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either stupid or a liar. Feel a weird lump somewhere? Go talk to your doctor, and feel free to get a second opinion, when my mom discovered a lump in her breast our family doctor didn't bother to check it out but just told her not to worry--she got a second opinion and yeah, it was cancer. Do everything you can to fight disease. Fight for universal healthcare so that people can have proper access to medicine, medical facilities, and medical care that they need. Want to do something that honors God? Then do these things--promote truth, fight ignorance, work toward the well-being of everyone.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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And God made doctors and scientists who can use the knowledge they gain about the natural things we have and apply these things in ways that help us immensely.

To reject modern medicine is not an act of piety, but an act of stupidity.

The following is not a statement that comes from faith: "I don't need a parachute when I fall from this plane, God will slow my fall!", that's just being an idiot.

-CryptoLutheran

I know I am pretty hard core on this issue. I do not expect you to live like I choose to. I understand you might want/need to take meds and have surgeries. We are different people. I respect that. What do you think?

I personally do not believe in modern allopathic cancer treatments at all. There is only one or two cases where I would comply with such treatments. Though I do take care to prevent CA as much as possible. Death is not the end of life for those who love the Lord. You know that.

The only knowledge I'm interested in is knowledge of God.

Modern medicine is predominately atheistic so there is no reason to assume it's of or from God. Men are capable of achieving a lot of things that God does not condone.

We are not to test God. That is a commandment. Yet we are to trust Him. That is a commandment too.
 
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I know I am pretty hard core on this issue. I do not expect you to live like I choose to. I understand you might want/need to take meds and have surgeries. We are different people. I respect that. What do you think?

The only knowledge I'm interested in is knowledge of God.

Modern medicine is predominately atheistic so there is no reason to assume it's of or from God. Men are capable of achieving a lot of things that God does not condone.

We are not to test God. That is a commandment. Yet we are to trust Him. That is a commandment too.

What if a physician prayed with you before putting their medical knowledge to use, would that make you feel better?
 
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What if a physician prayed with you before putting their medical knowledge to use, would that make you feel better?

That is not one of the conditions I would comply, no. Though the thought of Christian physicians is refreshing.
 
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The only knowledge I'm interested in is knowledge of God.

That certainly sounds pious, but that's just it, it only sounds pious.

Have you ever been on a plane? Seems to me that you might want your pilot to have knowledge of how to pilot a plane.

Ever had your car break down? Seems to me that either you or the mechanic you take it to should have some knowledge on how cars work.

Ever gone out to eat? Probably want a chef who knows how to cook. Want to make food yourself? Probably want to know how to cook.

Is it hot or cold outside? Should you wear a jacket? Seems like knowing the weather might be a good idea.

You're using a computer? Well knowing how to use one seems beneficial; also probably glad that the people who build the hardware and software knew how electronics and programming work.

Oh, you live in a building? You can thank the architects, carpenters, and painters who knew their craft.

Want to know which plants you could or shouldn't eat? Might want to have that knowledge before you decide to grab some strange leaves and put them in your mouth.

God gave you, me, and everyone a brain. It's not a useless organ, it's supposed to be used.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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If you stop using it, the only thing you will feel is all your pain returns--no withdrawal at all!! If you take it for nausea, the vomiting returns, if you take it for seizers, the seizures return, if you take if for anxiety and insomnia, then that returns.

We need to stop feeding the wrong info to people!! Even the medical profession did not have the right info as the government kept it hidden. The research is only now being done, before this, it was only legal to report, or research negative results!! No one could legally say anything good it did!
Not in my experience, but each person is different, I personally went through some terrible withdrawl symptoms when I didn't have it (sweats, nasuea, vomiting, unable to eat, diarrhea leading to dehydration), plus I was spending so much money on it that it cost me a house, and my family, and although I was self-medicating, due to various mental disorders that I was convinced (at the time) that pot was helping me with, now, I'm not so sure, but each person is different, to each his own, I do believe in it's medical, but not recreational use...

God Bless!
 
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Not in my experience, but each person is different, I personally went through some terrible withdrawl symptoms when I didn't have it (sweats, nasuea, vomiting, unable to eat, diarrhea leading to dehydration), plus I was spending so much money on it that it cost me a house, and my family, and although I was self-medicating, due to various mental disorders that I was convinced (at the time) that pot was helping me with, now, I'm not so sure, but each person is different, to each his own, I do believe in it's medical, but not recreational use...

God Bless!


There are people that get addicted to just about anything----I've been on Medical marijuana now since October of '14--Not one time have I gotten high from it. I drink it twice a day. I don't like having to spend so much money on it, but it beats using the more toxic pain meds. I was taking up to 8 tramadol a day, the max allowed. With it, I am down to 4, sometimes less. I did quite to try and save some money----and I pray I am never that stupid again!! I'd forgotten how bad the pain had been. It's one thing to spend years slowly, gradually getting more and more pain---you adjust and try to cope with it. When it hits you all at once again like that the pain is even more unbearable. I had no other symptoms, just the return of my pain. I have never been one for recreational pot. I am strictly medical. I am of firm believe that this is one of God's blessings that some have turned into a curse. Since I don't get high, I don't know what I would be getting addicted to.
 
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