Can You Change Your Patron Saint?

ZaidaBoBaida · Oct 23, 2017

or am I *stuck* with Mary of Bethany forever? I've grown to be very fond of both St Kassiana and Mother Maria.

I was actually ranting and raving about something in front of my husband and one of his Quaker friends, and the friend was a bit taken aback, and said, "Tell us how you really feel!" I said, "I will because I hate silence when it is time to speak!?' Then, he was really taken aback.

rusmeister · Oct 23, 2017

I don't know, but I do know that often what we want is not what we need.

ArmyMatt · Oct 23, 2017

I don't know of anyone who changes patrons aside from clergy or monastics. however, just because you have a patron doesn't mean you also can't grow to venerate others.

when I became Orthodox, I took St Matthew, but I have come to love other saints as well.

prodromos · Oct 24, 2017

Our family has grown close to a number of Saints over the years.

~Anastasia~ · Oct 24, 2017

Myself as well. I would have four others I would have chosen over St. Anastasia, who I do appreciate and love - most often I lean toward being named for the Anastasis (Resurrection) instead of any patron (I was unable to find my godfamily's actual intent).

But other than becoming tonsured again (clergy or monastics) I've never heard of renaming either.

It's not necessary in order to be close to those other Saints. Of course this is an "ask your priest" question. But virtually everyone is baptized and later comes to appreciate and develop a relationship with other Saints.

OrthodoxyUSA · Oct 24, 2017

I believe we would find this listed under 'pastoral concerns'. When in doubt, ask.

Forgive me...

abacabb3 · Oct 24, 2017

I'd imagine it is not wise to abandon someone you have been asking for prayers for some time. Simply ask more saints for prayers, but do not forget your patron saint.

Hermit76 · Oct 25, 2017

I have heard of one instance of it happening. I think he petitioned the Bishop and I'm not sure the process... or the jurisdiction in which it happened.

I was torn between Paisios and Theophan the Recluse. I chose Paisios because it was time to choose. I am still very close to Theophan.

ArmyMatt · Oct 25, 2017

the10ten said:
I think Christians don't have any patron saints, but rather Theotokos is their patron.

well, she is our Mother to be sure, and all of our patron in that sense.

gurneyhalleck1 · Oct 26, 2017

You can change saints, but you need to fill out the proper paper work and pay the fees. There is a new schedule of fees and things now need to be notarized. Consult the diocese, but here is the form so you can get a leg up on it....

Formal Request to change Saint Form 12JA-40

Name: __________________________ DOB: ___________________

Chrismation date: ___________________________ Height: _________________________

Marital Status: ______________________________

Reason for changing saint: _____________________________________________________

Have you ever been found guilty of any of the following:

a) Not fasting on Wednesday or Friday

b) Being an annoying Hyperdox

c) Giving people tons of advice and input when you’ve only been Orthodox 2-3 years

d) Not wearing a head scarf at a ROCOR parish and thinking you could survive

e) speaking out against Troy Paulumalu

f) not reading “Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives”

g) wanting to be tonsured a Reader before you’ve ever even read

h) signing up for coffee hour and making subpar baklava

i) bowing so low your head hit a pew in front of you

j) saying you’re an Old Calendarist and not knowing anything about Old Calendarists

k) thinking you have to learn Russian to be a good Orthodox

l) practicing saying “Axios!” in the shower in case an ordination comes to your parish

m) irritating traditionalists with evolution

n) thinking you’re God’s great gift to Orthodoxy instead of the other way around

o) insisting on full immersion re-baptism even after the priest said it’s not remotely needed

p) hating Catholics and Protestants with a passion now that you’ve seen the light

Any allergies to incense? Yes No

Any allergies to bee’s wax? Yes No

Original Saint ________________________________

New Saint ________________________________

Fee for saint change _________________ Visa Mastercard Cash Paypal

prodromos · Oct 26, 2017

This all has to be done in triplicate of course (we are Orthodox afterall)

ArmyMatt · Oct 26, 2017

prodromos said:
This all has to be done in triplicate of course (we are Orthodox afterall)

you send in three copies, but you make twelve for your desk and forty for your filing cabinet.

Tigger45 · Oct 26, 2017

All the while crossing Yourself over and over without stabbing your eye with your pen.

Hermit76 · Oct 26, 2017

gurneyhalleck1 said:
You can change saints, but you need to fill out the proper paper work and pay the fees. There is a new schedule of fees and things now need to be notarized. Consult the diocese, but here is the form so you can get a leg up on it....

Formal Request to change Saint Form 12JA-40

Name: __________________________ DOB: ___________________

Chrismation date: ___________________________ Height: _________________________

Marital Status: ______________________________

Reason for changing saint: _____________________________________________________

Have you ever been found guilty of any of the following:

a) Not fasting on Wednesday or Friday

b) Being an annoying Hyperdox

c) Giving people tons of advice and input when you’ve only been Orthodox 2-3 years

d) Not wearing a head scarf at a ROCOR parish and thinking you could survive

e) speaking out against Troy Paulumalu

f) not reading “Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives”

g) wanting to be tonsured a Reader before you’ve ever even read

h) signing up for coffee hour and making subpar baklava

i) bowing so low your head hit a pew in front of you

j) saying you’re an Old Calendarist and not knowing anything about Old Calendarists

k) thinking you have to learn Russian to be a good Orthodox

l) practicing saying “Axios!” in the shower in case an ordination comes to your parish

m) irritating traditionalists with evolution

n) thinking you’re God’s great gift to Orthodoxy instead of the other way around

o) insisting on full immersion re-baptism even after the priest said it’s not remotely needed

p) hating Catholics and Protestants with a passion now that you’ve seen the light

Any allergies to incense? Yes No

Any allergies to bee’s wax? Yes No

Original Saint ________________________________

New Saint ________________________________

Fee for saint change _________________ Visa Mastercard Cash Paypal

Item number "i" - excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is a "pew"?

Anhelyna · Oct 26, 2017

A left over from the previous occupier of the temple and one which cannot be removed because of the conditions of the sale of the edifice.

Light of the East · Oct 30, 2017

Question:

How does one come to have a patron saint? This is an area of my conversion which didn't really "take" with me?

Do you only have one? Can't have more than one?

Is your patron saint the saint of the day you were born?

Thanks

Light of the East · Oct 30, 2017

Hermit76 said:
Item number "i" - excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is a "pew"?

As +Fr. Michael, of happy memory, used to tell me in the sacristy after Liturgy - the answer to your question is this:

FIREWOOD!!!!

ArmyMatt · Oct 30, 2017

Light of the East said:
Question:

How does one come to have a patron saint? This is an area of my conversion which didn't really "take" with me?

Do you only have one? Can't have more than one?

Is your patron saint the saint of the day you were born?

Thanks

typically there would be the one you are named for and that is your Namesday, but you can have as many as you need for personal veneration. how the choice is made is between you and your priest.

Light of the East · Oct 30, 2017

ArmyMatt said:
typically there would be the one you are named for and that is your Namesday, but you can have as many as you need for personal veneration. how the choice is made is between you and your priest.

Well, being that my parents were non-religious Protestants, I doubt I was actually named after any particular saint.

I believe (if I remember correctly) that when I entered the Church, I took St. Patrick because I am Irish and born on March 17th (can't get much more Irish than that!!!). But I also have the name of Anthony (after my grandfather) and love the stories of his life and miracles.

So it's okay for me to claim both St. Patrick and St. Anthony?

Thanks!

ArmyMatt · Oct 30, 2017

Light of the East said:
Well, being that my parents were non-religious Protestants, I doubt I was actually named after any particular saint.

I believe (if I remember correctly) that when I entered the Church, I took St. Patrick because I am Irish and born on March 17th (can't get much more Irish than that!!!). But I also have the name of Anthony (after my grandfather) and love the stories of his life and miracles.

So it's okay for me to claim both St. Patrick and St. Anthony?

Thanks!

well, usually not both as a name, but that doesn't mean you cannot do both. usually if you already have a saint's name, you keep it (like St Anthony).

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