Hi there,
So look, my questions have arrived at a point where I can see something to do with Evolution, but I still don't know what it is. It's as if there is a sense in which Evolution is practical and just short of true and therefore practically true. The thing I'm having difficulty with is the moral dimension, I just can't accept that anything goes. So I've come up with this example of a limit that I know, I absolutely know cannot be surpassed: you cannot be more evolved than Jesus.
Jesus said "I live by my message" right? And every successive generation interprets Jesus message in their own way, right? So in a sense His messange is alive and Jesus is alive because His message is alive?
Ok but there is no sense in which Jesus love is insufficient. Why? Because He gave everything, and "everything" to each successive generation is something different, it might be more, it might be less, overall but at the time it is basically EVERYTHING. When you say everything to a black guy, it is every part of his blackness. When you say everything to a chinese guy, it is every part of his chineseness. When you say everything to a boy, it is every part of his boyness. Right?
So how are you going to out evolve something that is alive all the time, giving everything? You just can't. Jesus even knew this.
There is a verse in the Bible which most people would know if they read it, it goes "Greater love has no man than this, than a man who lays down his life for his friends".
Why is this? Because no matter how evolved you are, you are still basically just "alive". You can't give more than what keeps you alive.
It's like saying "Here. I give you the best of Evolution, keep it" You are going to say "great, the best of Evolution, just what I always wanted" right? I mean how can you turn it down? You can say "No, you can't give Evolution, you keep it" but then you're saying you don't even want what you believe in. How far is that from just giving it up? What reason could you have for keeping on believing in something you don't even share?
So I don't know, I think I've made my point. If you can't share Evolution then you can't beat someone who shares, it's as simple as that, Man. I'm not trying to be a downer, its just a fact. This fact is the reason people are moral, it is what all the good of the world comes from. Saying no to that, I don't know how else to put it: you're on the way to suicide.
Take it as a warning if you really must, but that's not what I'm saying: I'm saying there is a limit and the limit welcomes us. Be welcomed.
So look, my questions have arrived at a point where I can see something to do with Evolution, but I still don't know what it is. It's as if there is a sense in which Evolution is practical and just short of true and therefore practically true. The thing I'm having difficulty with is the moral dimension, I just can't accept that anything goes. So I've come up with this example of a limit that I know, I absolutely know cannot be surpassed: you cannot be more evolved than Jesus.
Jesus said "I live by my message" right? And every successive generation interprets Jesus message in their own way, right? So in a sense His messange is alive and Jesus is alive because His message is alive?
Ok but there is no sense in which Jesus love is insufficient. Why? Because He gave everything, and "everything" to each successive generation is something different, it might be more, it might be less, overall but at the time it is basically EVERYTHING. When you say everything to a black guy, it is every part of his blackness. When you say everything to a chinese guy, it is every part of his chineseness. When you say everything to a boy, it is every part of his boyness. Right?
So how are you going to out evolve something that is alive all the time, giving everything? You just can't. Jesus even knew this.
There is a verse in the Bible which most people would know if they read it, it goes "Greater love has no man than this, than a man who lays down his life for his friends".
Why is this? Because no matter how evolved you are, you are still basically just "alive". You can't give more than what keeps you alive.
It's like saying "Here. I give you the best of Evolution, keep it" You are going to say "great, the best of Evolution, just what I always wanted" right? I mean how can you turn it down? You can say "No, you can't give Evolution, you keep it" but then you're saying you don't even want what you believe in. How far is that from just giving it up? What reason could you have for keeping on believing in something you don't even share?
So I don't know, I think I've made my point. If you can't share Evolution then you can't beat someone who shares, it's as simple as that, Man. I'm not trying to be a downer, its just a fact. This fact is the reason people are moral, it is what all the good of the world comes from. Saying no to that, I don't know how else to put it: you're on the way to suicide.
Take it as a warning if you really must, but that's not what I'm saying: I'm saying there is a limit and the limit welcomes us. Be welcomed.