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NoThe study of evolution begins with the Big Bang and the process that led to life evolving from a muddy mix.
Yes a superior science book. Those limited to and focused on modern science and it's hopelessly limited abilities and knowledge would not recognize real science when they saw it. It is not only science, but super advanced actual science. I guess cave men and modern scientists would consider it magic.Genesis is not science. Bible is not a scientific book.
Man's knowledge and the lies of Satan dressed as knowledge have been here from the getgo. The fact modern man is so pleased with himself and thinks he is hot stuff and a little god does not change that. No big news there.Among other reasons is the fact that the modern concept of science was unknown to biblical authors, they did not have such genre at all.
LieBible was not sent from heaven.
New every morning actually, treasures new and old. It is alive and we always learn new things with His help.The text is in no way fresh for us
It is futuristic. Makes the Jetsons seem like the Flintstones.and thats why you misunderstand it so much. You read it like written in our era.
Says who? How would we know what He spoke in that 80 days? The ten commandments might have taken 20 minutes, and God Himself wrote them on the tablet! Did you think He wrote real slow?God did not spoke Genesis or Exodus to Moses.
Yes that part was done. How would we know what else was covered? God also spoke to Moses other times!According to the Bible itself, God began to speak to Moses with the burning bush and the most speaking was done about laws and religious instructions in the desert. If you remember.
Science has no view of creation since it ignores it and invents other scenarios. God's word is not myth either. Wrong on all counts.The mythological view of creation, sin and death. Not a scientific one.
Read the definition and weepIt has nothing to do with dirt, just stop trying. You made a mistake, it happens.
Word salad.Yes, all Christians believe that God created/is creating our reality.
If they believed the bible they did. By the way what 'common church' are you talking about and when?Nope, the common church never held a doctrine of 6 literal days creation.
Believers never held any view that was false. Now if you are talking about the Catholic church system or something, that is another matter. All Christians hold a view that earth is the important thing in the universe. God is moving here. Nothing is more important. Not only that, but this universe is going bye bye soon as well, but earth will always be here (it will be burned with fire, cleansed and made new) Science considers us a little blue dot with no special significance. Any kindergarten bible believer should be able to spot that Satan is behind that load.Which was a wise thing, considering that when the western medieval church tried to hold the biblical geo-centrism, it did not end well either.
The windows of heaven opened and closed so of course we all believe in them. Obviously we do not see them today. We also know that heaven opened at times (portal) so doors is a fine word as well. As for the flat earth that is a foolish old wive's tale, not in the bible, of course.Are you also believing in the flat earth and in the firmament with windows and doors? If not, why not? Its the same Bible.
Nutshell might be a good word there.I think we can believe in evolution and many do. The 6 day description is just a nutshell description of evolution.
No. The Big Bang says that stars were here before earth. It can be rejected as a lie.The Big Bang-"Let there be light." First, the formation of the Earth, the water and the land.
Nowhere is that found in the bible and in fact God specifies how woman and man were made and when.Then vegetation and the creation of animals. The evolution of mammals into men,
False. There was no women on earth when man was created. It was not woman that named the animals. Woman came later. There is no possibility to fit evolution in there.Rather than man evolving, it also specifies God formed us, then moved us to a garden and then made woman.the man rules the Earth, names the animals, then goes from the garden (hunting and gathering to farming vegetables
No, God was right there speaking to some people. Also, oral records were rock solid. Imagine Noah, after the flood, talking to young Abraham. His record was always here.There were no people who could read or write so the stories must have been passed through oral tradition which is always steeped in much legend and myth. I don't think the creation story is any different.
Its simply not science in our meaning of science. The topic is the scientific theory of evolution in the context of our modern science.Yes a superior science book. Those limited to and focused on modern science and it's hopelessly limited abilities and knowledge would not recognize real science when they saw it. It is not only science, but super advanced actual science.
You cannot invent speculations and then ask "who says it was not so". Thats not how proper reasoning works. There is no evidence that Genesis was written by Moses, there is actually enough evidence that for example Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 had different authors and are from different sources.Says who? How would we know what He spoke in that 80 days? The ten commandments might have taken 20 minutes, and God Himself wrote them on the tablet! Did you think He wrote real slow?
It does, its called the Big Bang theory.Science has no view of creation since it ignores it and invents other scenarios.
There are many mythological elements in the Bible - creation stories, Noah's flood, Babel, Giants, Leviathan, Rahab, dragons, flying serpents...God's word is not myth either. Wrong on all counts.
If they did, name it. The common church is the worldwide church, in Latin called "catholic".If they believed the bible they did. By the way what 'common church' are you talking about and when?
Geo-centrism and flat-earthism are in the same Bible as Genesis 1 or Genesis 2. Why do you cherry-pick?Believers never held any view that was false. Now if you are talking about the Catholic church system or something, that is another matter. All Christians hold a view that earth is the important thing in the universe. God is moving here. Nothing is more important. Not only that, but this universe is going bye bye soon as well, but earth will always be here (it will be burned with fire, cleansed and made new) Science considers us a little blue dot with no special significance. Any kindergarten bible believer should be able to spot that Satan is behind that load.
And God literally rides on the winds with clouds as His chariots, right? (Ps 104:3). Sigh.The windows of heaven opened and closed so of course we all believe in them. Obviously we do not see them today. We also know that heaven opened at times (portal) so doors is a fine word as well. As for the flat earth that is a foolish old wive's tale, not in the bible, of course.
Well, you are changing the meaning, Bible contradicting itself is not God contradicting himself, because Bible is not God.People have tired and no one has ever shown me where the Bible contradicts itself. No one has ever shown me where the Bible and Science contradict. Even we can use the scientific method to understand our Bible.
Modern science then, is not science in the context of God's super superior real scienceIts simply not science in our meaning of science. The topic is the scientific theory of evolution in the context of our modern science.
Yes, it shows that there is a superior science and that one must include that in any creation model. Constructing a creation model based solely on the current knowledge of man is hopelessly farcical.If you want to call mythology or non-literal genres "super real super advanced science", you can, but it has no practical use for this discussion.
There is a wide acceptance that Moses probably was the author. But if God used someone else around that time, why would we doubt He spoke to them also? Claiming Gen 1 and 2 are from different authors is insane projectionYou cannot invent speculations and then ask "who says it was not so". Thats not how proper reasoning works. There is no evidence that Genesis was written by Moses, there is actually enough evidence that Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 had different authors and are from different sources.
The preferred name of fairy tales matters not at allIt does, its called the Big Bang theory.
Creation is fact. The flood is fact. (confirmed by Jesus) Giants existed. The great dragon exists. Leviathan existed. Sorry if you thought you got to wave it all away for no apparent reason.There are many mythological elements in the Bible - creation stories, Noah's flood, Babel, Giants, Leviathan, Rahab, dragons, flying serpents...
I see. That explains it then.If they did, name it. The common church is the worldwide church, in Latin called "catholic".
Not true. Why offer your skewed and doubt laced dreams as bible fact?Geo-centrism and flat-earthism are in the same Bible as Genesis 1 or Genesis 2. Why do you cherry-pick?
That is news?? He really can boogieAnd God literally rides on the winds with clouds as His chariots, right? (Ps 104:3). Sigh.
No. Sorry. False claimFlat earth is in the Bible,
What did you think they were? They are in space. The same space that is called the firmament.its even in Genesis 1 - the sun, the moon and the stars are just lights in the firmament, biblically.
This is just useless playing with words. Why can not you simply accept that our science and the Bible are not the same genre? And you will not need to create this weird needless dancing around it.Modern science then, is not science in the context of God's super superior real science
Moses is the traditional author, the book was included under his name. But it was a common habit to ascribe authorship to a known, prominent figure.There is a wide acceptance that Moses probably was the author.
You can study it, if you are interested. You may start with wikipedia and follow the sources: Book of Genesis - WikipediaBut if God used someone else around that time, why would we doubt He spoke to them also? Claiming Gen 1 and 2 are from different authors is insane projection
Except of creation, nothing of the list is a scientific fact. Creation in the meaning of our universe having a beginning can be seen as a scientific fact, yes.Creation is fact. The flood is fact. (confirmed by Jesus) Giants existed. The great dragon exists. Leviathan existed. Sorry if you thought you got to wave it all away for no apparent reason.
If you think that the biblical firmament is the scientific notion of space, you really do not understand what the biblical authors meant.Not true. Why offer your skewed and doubt laced dreams as bible fact?
That is news?? He really can boogie
No. Sorry. False claim
What did you think they were? They are in space. The same space that is called the firmament.
There is also a belief that something is oral tradition long before they write it down.There is a wide acceptance that Moses probably was the author.
The sun produces light through a process called nuclear fusion, which occurs when hydrogen atoms collide and fuse into helium. This process releases energy that builds up and reaches temperatures of 15 million degrees Fahrenheit in the sun's core.If you think that the biblical firmament is the scientific notion of space,
When Jesus said we are to become as a child that maybe a step up for some people. There was a program on TV are you smarter than a fifth grader. The answer is a lot of people cannot even function at a fifth grade level. Yet they think they know more than the PhD that has devoted days, weeks, months and years to study what they have not give ten seconds of consideration to.Good, the flat earth is not a scientific concept.
The verse says walks not ride.And God literally rides on the winds with clouds as His chariots, right? (Ps 104:3). Sigh.
How do bats see? Many bats use echolocation to "see with sound", which is the process of emitting high-frequency sound pulses through their mouth or nose and listening to the echo.How about some skin vision
Animals had eyes before man, and some are the most advanced vision on the planet.How do bats see? Many bats use echolocation to "see with sound", which is the process of emitting high-frequency sound pulses through their mouth or nose and listening to the echo.
Of course the post has to do with the atmosphere and what God was doing on the fourth day.
He did not create eyes to see until the sixth day.
The issue has to do with the law of first use in the Bible. All of the Bible explains the first word in the Bible. What began, when did it begin and why did it begin. The next four words are God Created Heaven Earth. Most people agree that it did not take God a whole week to do what He could do in an instant or a brief moment of time. Or does He turn on a light switch so we can see what is already there? Does He need a witness to see what He is doing? What is the observer effect? How much does the observer effect what is being observed?There are more important topics in regards to christian views, such as apologetic/theological topics than the topic of evolution.
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