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No. Satan and their own wickedness deceived them. God allowed it to happen, and yes, for a good reason. Because He is just.So He deceived them, but it was for a good reason. O.K.
Friend, if it contradicts what is real and tested, what does that make of our faith?Just as long as our observation and understanding of the natural world doesn't cloud our understanding of spiritual matters. E.g. Nicodemus and being born again.
John 3:3-10
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”
4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”
5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.
10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?
What is faith?Friend, if it contradicts what is real and tested, what does that make of our faith?
Faith is a work of God in us that goes beyond the power of positive thinking and positive mental attitude. My father was a doctor and he was very good at using the power of suggestion to get positive results. So I am well aware of what only God can do and what is beyond our ability apart from God.What is faith?
Nahmanides taught that although the days are 24 hours each, they contain "kol yemot ha-olam" - all the ages and all the secrets of the world. Nahmanides says that before the universe, there was nothing... but then suddenly the entire creation appeared as a minuscule speck. He gives a description for the speck: something very tiny, smaller than a grain of mustard. And he says that is the only physical creation. There was no other physical creation; all other creations were spiritual. The Nefesh (the soul of animal life, Genesis 1:21) and the Neshama (the soul of human life, Genesis 1:27) are spiritual creations.The theory came from Kabballah...
NOTHING has been added from the first Zeptosecond of time. So we were all there in the beginning. Everything that every was, we were there.So, because God told Job that He laid the earth's foundation, then He was there.
Nahmanides taught that although the days are 24 hours each, they contain "kol yemot ha-olam" - all the ages and all the secrets of the world. Nahmanides says that before the universe, there was nothing... but then suddenly the entire creation appeared as a minuscule speck.
So he is wrong and anti bible. No big news thereHe gives a description for the speck: something very tiny, smaller than a grain of mustard. And he says that is the only physical creation.
Pipe dreamThere was no other physical creation; all other creations were spiritual.
Even those who know physics do not know there was something there beforeNahmanides did not know about quantum physics. So he did not know there was something before the physical universe began.
False/ One each and every day of creation things were added.All we know is that nothing has been added from the first instant of time.
And some question about what time is and whether it in contained in physics.What they call a zeptosecond or Plank time. Although there is some discrepancy between when and where the laws of physics are.
No. The way and extent of laws operating is set in place by God. The cosmos has zero to do with it. The cosmos obeys.The interplay between when and where the laws of physics operate is a rich tapestry woven by the cosmos itself.
They are confused and unable to come to a knowledge of the truth so do not hold your breathThey are still working on the theory of everything.
Because time is infinite with God. Even He is past, present and future all at the same time.God says He created it. No specks involved
He said this 1,000 years ago and MANY people are still talking about it today. Your statement sounds anti-Semitic to me. You forget, we get our Bible from them. Expect for Luke everyone one in the Bible is "Jewish".So he is wrong and anti bible. No big news there
What was added to the Universe that was not here before?False/ One each and every day of creation things were added.
Really? You do not know what time is but you are a self professed expert on time? This does not add up.And some question about what time is and whether it in contained in physics.
Physics are natural laws. Jesus said in Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished".No. The way and extent of laws operating is set in place by God.
The evidence suggests it goes back before DNA. But certainly by the time there was cellular life. It's called "conjugation."You have to go back a long way to find the beginning of recombination. Long before male and female.
The issue is that you seem to disapprove of the way He did it.God says He created it.
We are told God made them male and female and that Eve came from the side of Adam. You have to go back a long time to see when this happened. Still science and the Bible agree and do not contradict each other. As they say: God says it and that settles it.The evidence suggests it goes back before DNA.
The trouble is, you're engaged in a rather creative and intricate re-interpretation of the Genesis narrative in order to make the claim that they don't contradict. Anyone who's not motivated to harmonize them isn't going to follow, and the attempt just looks like a rather bizarre attempt at rationalization rather than being a compelling argument.We are told God made them male and female and that Eve came from the side of Adam. You have to go back a long time to see when this happened. Still science and the Bible agree and do not contradict each other. As they say: God says it and that settles it.
They do not agree. You are creating highly speculative extra-biblical claims and peculiar individual interpretations in your try to make them agree.Still science and the Bible agree and do not contradict each other. As they say: God says it and that settles it.
I think a lot of that kind of weirdness comes from people clinging to a verbal-plenary view of inspiration, rather than interacting with the Bible that we have. It's obvious to unbiased observers that the Genesis narrative, if taken to be a genuine description of the creation event, fails miserably when compared to modern scientific evidence. But last time I checked, belief in a literal interpretation of Genesis was not an essential for salvation. The only thing that cannot be compromised in the Biblical account is that Jesus died by crucifixion and was raised from the dead 3 days later, and that's a matter of faith(with some view to historic evidence) rather than scientific inquiry.They do not agree. You are creating highly speculative extra-biblical claims and peculiar individual interpretations in your try to make them agree.
I guess most people do not even understand your interpretations, because they are so wild.
Today's winner.But last time I checked, belief in a literal interpretation of Genesis was not an essential for salvation. The only thing that cannot be compromised in the Biblical account is that Jesus died by crucifixion and was raised from the dead 3 days later, and that's a matter of faith(with some view to historic evidence) rather than scientific inquiry.
At least I don't disapprove of the way He said He did itThe evidence suggests it goes back before DNA. But certainly by the time there was cellular life. It's called "conjugation."
The issue is that you seem to disapprove of the way He did it.
That doesn't mean He runs on earth time. We doBecause time is infinite with God. Even He is past, present and future all at the same time.
Not honouring the anti bible writings of some religious cabal has nothing to do with being 'anti Semitic'. I am anti heretic theoriesHe said this 1,000 years ago and MANY people are still talking about it today. Your statement sounds anti-Semitic to me. You forget, we get our Bible from them. Expect for Luke everyone one in the Bible is "Jewish".
Something was added to nothing before something existed? ExplainWhat was added to the Universe that was not here before?
Pointing out that time may not be part of 'physics' does not make one an expert on what the full meaning of time isReally? You do not know what time is but you are a self professed expert on time? This does not add up.
How does anything Jesus said there limit time to being a 'natural' law?Physics are natural laws. Jesus said in Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished".
First you do not understand time, now you do not understand what natural laws are. This is a wild ride you are taking us on.
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