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I don't see where it says Jesus is coming back physically.


Acts 1
9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

But I guess that would be another scripture you would absolutely ignore. Do not pretend your heresies have biblical support. How a person can believe such things, having the ability to ignore every other scripture and yet claim to be a Christian, this is beyond my understanding.
 
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Acts 1
9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

But I guess that would be another scripture you would absolutely ignore. Do not pretend your heresies have biblical support. How a person can believe such things, having the ability to ignore every other scripture and yet claim to be a Christian, this is beyond my understanding.
When Jesus went away was He only physical? What did He mean that He was being glorified when He told Mary not to touch Him? If Jesus was a physical being how was it He came though walls to visit with the apostles? Where in the scripture you quoted does it say Jesus is coming back with a physical body? It says Jesus will come back in like manner. It does not say Jesus will come back as a physical person. Do you really believe that Jesus was taken up in the sky with a physical body and continues to exist physically in some physical place and that we could locate Him if we were able to build the right space ship? Do you also believe hell is located physically in the bowels of the earth? Do you really posit that you do not ignore any scripture? Do you teach and believe in Ezekiel 18 just like the rest of the King James Bible?
 
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Dear Iakobos. When Adam and Eve, ( our proto-types) were banished to Earth, it was because they did not love God with heart, with souls, and with minds. They believed a lying Serpent, rather than they believed God. Instead of repenting, they and all wo came after, moved farther and farther away from God. Earth is our place to learn to love God with all our hearts, with all our souls and with all our minds. Also to learn to love our neighbour ( all others) as we love ourselves. To enter God`s Kingdom ( heaven) we all have to learn to LOVE, selflessly and no conditions asked. Love is the Key to heaven, without selfless love, there is no permission to enter. We have been given years to learn, and change from being selfish and without love for God and our neighbour, " to be born again:" a new person to be with our Heavenly Father and our loving brothers and sisters. There would be no reason to cast anybody out of heaven. As for angels who do not belong there, God will have dealt with them. I say this with love, Iakobos. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ.
 
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