Can We Prove Anything?

[durangodawood]

If you promise not to point out logical fallacies when scrutinizing the proof, I can do it.

I can make a "campaign promise", but not a real one.

 

[quatona]

I can make a "campaign promise", but not a real one.

..and that´s the very problem with questioning logic.

 

[KCfromNC]

Can you demonstrate a proof of logic for me?

This seems like a category error to me. Various forms of logic are useful tools for solving some types of problems. I'm not sure what a proof of that would look like, aside from the copious evidence that it is true. It is like asking for a proof of a hammer or a calculator. All you're going to get is that they exist and we use them successfully.

 

[durangodawood]

This seems like a category error to me. Various forms of logic are useful tools for solving some types of problems. I'm not sure what a proof of that would look like, aside from the copious evidence that it is true. It is like asking for a proof of a hammer or a calculator. All you're going to get is that they exist and we use them successfully.

I totally agree. Someone else proposed we could prove logic.

 

[quatona]

I totally agree. Someone else proposed we could prove logic.

What´s that even supposed to mean - "prove logic"? Prove it to be what?

 

[durangodawood]

Well, People, this was a pretty good thread.
Had most of my previous ideas confirmed by other sensible people.
Learned some new things.
Good work everyone!

 

[GrowingSmaller]

I borrow this idea from somewhere else IIRC... but to really absolutely know, it would have to be a necessary being (God) necessarily knowing itself.

All else would be open to error.

We are fallible, we dont ("out of necessity") actually know anything, or else we would know it always and forever. Necessary knowledge would be permanent and fixed.

Therefore, nothing can be proven to us, absolutely at least. We only dip our toes into the river of knowing, and it is ever changing.

 

[leftrightleftrightleft]

Does this thread prove that we can't prove anything?

 

[Davian]

Does this thread prove that we can't prove anything?

Evidently so.

 

[durangodawood]

Does this thread prove that we can't prove anything?

No. Not proof. But it meets the lower standard of being convincing.