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Can there be morality without God?
What would that even mean?
What would that even mean?
Is the pious loved by God because it is pious? Or is it pious because it is loved by God?Without God "morality" is defined by our society. But then we got no objective morality, no absolute. We could not say "This society has the right morality and that society has the wrong morality". We could not condemn a society like Hitler's regime because the morality in that regime was part of the society just like other societies got different moralities.
Without an absolute nobody had the right to say "Your morality is wrong and mine is right". Without God there could be no "right" and "wrong", no "good" and "evil".
Can there be morality without God?
What would that even mean?
Is the pious loved by God because it is pious? Or is it pious because it is loved by God?
I agree. And then to take it a step further, thankfully, God is immutable in Character, which is why then we can objectively say that something is always wrong - because God does not change His standard.I've been to that debate many times.
My conclusion is that God determines righteousness and righteousness does not exist except by God's determination. There is not a concept of righteousness above God, or independent of God to which God must adhere or even to which God must agree. Righteousness is a creation of God.
I agree. And then to take it a step further, thankfully, God is immutable in Character, which is why then we can objectively say that something is always wrong - because God does not change His standard.
Since God is goodness itself it means that morality does not exist without God because goodness is of God. Of course it is always the inner man which is the most important thing because the spirit is what it is. The outward appearance somewhat hides the truth. The inner must shine through the outer but inward conditions can vary greatly while the outward appearance all seems the same. and the inner can all be the same but the outward seem different. Most of us humans are a mix of crude and pure elements.Can there be morality without God?
What would that even mean?
Of course, we are not born with a blank slate, all of us have an innate sense of right and wrong. That's one part of what it means to be made in the Image of God, which all human beings are, even if we are born with an inherited sinful nature.But...peoples around the world and throughout time have developed certain common moral values without following an Abrahamic God religion.
Can there be morality without God?
What would that even mean?
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