Can someone please Explain why this is not a breach of American Law?

[Llewelyn]

TECH GIANT LEAVES NORTH CAROLINA OVER SAME SEX BATHROOMS

North Carolina is paying a high price after striking down Charlotte's bathroom ordinance bill. PayPal says it is cancelling plans to bring more than 400 jobs and a $3.6 million investment into the city with its new operation centre. The decision comes after North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory signed a bill repealing the transgender bathroom ordinance in Charlotte. People expressed concern over the ordinance, saying it would allow anyone identifying as transgender to use a public facility based on the sex they identify with rather than their biological sex. The risk became that any man, perhaps a sex offender, could enter a woman's restroom simply by calling himself transgender.

The new law limits the use of bathrooms, locker rooms and showers to persons of the same biological sex. According to PayPal President and CEO Dan Schulman, "The legislation invalidates protections of the rights of lesbian, homosexual, bisexual, and transgender citizens and denies these members of our community equal rights under the law." Schulman also says the new law promotes discrimination. "I'm going to respect people who disagree with our commonsense rules," McCrory responded. "This has a real impact on Charlotte and North Carolina families, and I'm urging our legislature to find some kind of legislative remedy as soon as possible," Charlotte Mayor Jennifer Roberts said. North Carolina's next step is not yet clear, but PayPal says it will seek an alternative location for their operations centre.

Paypal are refusing to do business with the State of North Carolina on the basis of sexuality. The precedent has already been set in court of law. Why is Paypal not being called to account? Business should keep its nose out of such politics.

 

[RDKirk]

Are you suggesting government should determine where and whether a business spends its own money in a particular state?

 

[Llewelyn]

Are you suggesting government should determine where and whether a business spends its own money in a particular state?

No, that is not the suggestion. Where a company spends its money is not relevant to my query, it is the basis of that choice, does it breach the law or not? Clearly the basis of this choice looks like a breach to me, since they have chosen to make that choice on the basis of sexuality, which [as I am often told] is illegal. If a bakery or flower shop is not entitled to make a choice on this basis, why is a large company? Companies should be run on an a-political basis.

It also annoys me that said company is using my purchasing clout to push an agenda against my will. I do not approve of the director's personal opinions being used as my voice. This is a breach of my personal rights. I say Paypal should be called to account. It has no right to make a decision on the basis of sexuality or belief system.

 

[Hetta]

You have a choice not to use Paypal, nobody is forcing you to use it so your 'purchasing clout' really isn't an issue. A business can choose to set up or not set up offices wherever they wish to set them up. I don't know what you mean about a business making its decision "on the basis of sexuality" because I've never heard of any such law. Perhaps you could link that particular law.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Paypal isn't discriminating on the basis of sexuality. It is choosing to not do business in a state that passed a law the directors feel doesn't reflect the views of the company as a public entity. It's no different than a company deciding it doesn't want to do business in a state with lax gun laws or a state that honors its racist past.

There's no law banning that in the United States.

 

[revanneosl]

I've said it before & I'll say it again: these right-wingers will not be satisfied until "bigot" is a protected class under the Civil Rights Act & the Equal Employment Opportunity Act.

 

[Always in His Presence]

We have men's rooms, women's rooms and family restrooms. Why not just add transgender rooms. It would afford everyone what they want.

 

[Hank77]

No, that is not the suggestion. Where a company spends its money is not relevant to my query, it is the basis of that choice, does it breach the law or not? Clearly the basis of this choice looks like a breach to me, since they have chosen to make that choice on the basis of sexuality, which [as I am often told] is illegal. If a bakery or flower shop is not entitled to make a choice on this basis, why is a large company? Companies should be run on an a-political basis.

It also annoys me that said company is using my purchasing clout to push an agenda against my will. I do not approve of the director's personal opinions being used as my voice. This is a breach of my personal rights. I say Paypal should be called to account. It has no right to make a decision on the basis of sexuality or belief system.

PayPal, is not refusing to SELL or SERVE someone based on sexual anything.
They are choosing not to open a business in this state, and that is their right.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

We have men's rooms, women's rooms and family restrooms. Why not just add transgender rooms. It would afford everyone what they want.

I would support a third, gender-neutral option. I don't see anything wrong with that.

 

[Winken]

TECH GIANT LEAVES NORTH CAROLINA OVER SAME SEX BATHROOMS

North Carolina is paying a high price after striking down Charlotte's bathroom ordinance bill. PayPal says it is cancelling plans to bring more than 400 jobs and a $3.6 million investment into the city with its new operation centre. The decision comes after North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory signed a bill repealing the transgender bathroom ordinance in Charlotte. People expressed concern over the ordinance, saying it would allow anyone identifying as transgender to use a public facility based on the sex they identify with rather than their biological sex. The risk became that any man, perhaps a sex offender, could enter a woman's restroom simply by calling himself transgender.

The new law limits the use of bathrooms, locker rooms and showers to persons of the same biological sex. According to PayPal President and CEO Dan Schulman, "The legislation invalidates protections of the rights of lesbian, homosexual, bisexual, and transgender citizens and denies these members of our community equal rights under the law." Schulman also says the new law promotes discrimination. "I'm going to respect people who disagree with our commonsense rules," McCrory responded. "This has a real impact on Charlotte and North Carolina families, and I'm urging our legislature to find some kind of legislative remedy as soon as possible," Charlotte Mayor Jennifer Roberts said. North Carolina's next step is not yet clear, but PayPal says it will seek an alternative location for their operations centre.

Paypal are refusing to do business with the State of North Carolina on the basis of sexuality. The precedent has already been set in court of law. Why is Paypal not being called to account? Business should keep its nose out of such politics.

Good becomes evil in the eyes of some. Evil becomes Good. That describes Paypal et al.

 

[TerranceL]

What law do you think they would be breaking?

 

[RedPonyDriver]

A company or person can refuse to do business with a state or entity that does not necessarily accurately reflect the company or personal values. IF I had my own company still, I would be refusing to do business in North Carolina, Mississippi and other states because of these "religious freedom" laws also. Why? Because those laws violate how I ran and would still be running my business. There's no law against that.

 

[RDKirk]

No, that is not the suggestion. Where a company spends its money is not relevant to my query, it is the basis of that choice, does it breach the law or not? Clearly the basis of this choice looks like a breach to me, since they have chosen to make that choice on the basis of sexuality, which [as I am often told] is illegal. If a bakery or flower shop is not entitled to make a choice on this basis, why is a large company? Companies should be run on an a-political basis.

It also annoys me that said company is using my purchasing clout to push an agenda against my will. I do not approve of the director's personal opinions being used as my voice. This is a breach of my personal rights. I say Paypal should be called to account. It has no right to make a decision on the basis of sexuality or belief system.

It's just as legal for a company to decide to move it's business to a state with such a law.

 

[Four Angels Standing]

PayPal says....
Where is the proof that PayPal was in process of opening an office in North Carolina?

Think Deutsche Bank making the same type announcement.

It costs nothing to claim cancellation of plans. And it garners every benefit from those who will patronize those companies due to their support of Trans-civil rights.

 

[Belk]

Good becomes evil in the eyes of some. Evil becomes Good. That describes Paypal et al.

Some would castigate their fellow man for simply trying to be who they are. I would say that is evil.

 

[Maren]

To be clear, they didn't pull their proposed expansion based on bathrooms -- from PayPal's own comments, "In the short time since then, legislation has been abruptly enacted by the State of North Carolina that invalidates protections of the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender citizens and denies these members of our community equal rights under the law. The new law perpetuates discrimination and it violates the values and principles that are at the core of PayPal’s mission and culture. As a result, PayPal will not move forward with our planned expansion into Charlotte."

Let's quit pretending this bill is only about bathrooms.

 

[Hetta]

PayPal says....
Where is the proof that PayPal was in process of opening an office in North Carolina?

Think Deutsche Bank making the same type announcement.

It costs nothing to claim cancellation of plans. And it garners every benefit from those who will patronize those companies due to their support of Trans-civil rights.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/05/technology/paypal-north-carolina-lgbt/

Firstly as the article states, Paypal has long been known to be a supporter of LGBTQ rights, so they don't need to pretend to be doing that.

Secondly, they announced their plans to open the premises weeks before the bill was signed.

It took me about 10 seconds to find this article. Just sayin'.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

TECH GIANT LEAVES NORTH CAROLINA OVER SAME SEX BATHROOMS

North Carolina is paying a high price after striking down Charlotte's bathroom ordinance bill. PayPal says it is cancelling plans to bring more than 400 jobs and a $3.6 million investment into the city with its new operation centre. The decision comes after North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory signed a bill repealing the transgender bathroom ordinance in Charlotte. People expressed concern over the ordinance, saying it would allow anyone identifying as transgender to use a public facility based on the sex they identify with rather than their biological sex. The risk became that any man, perhaps a sex offender, could enter a woman's restroom simply by calling himself transgender.

The new law limits the use of bathrooms, locker rooms and showers to persons of the same biological sex. According to PayPal President and CEO Dan Schulman, "The legislation invalidates protections of the rights of lesbian, homosexual, bisexual, and transgender citizens and denies these members of our community equal rights under the law." Schulman also says the new law promotes discrimination. "I'm going to respect people who disagree with our commonsense rules," McCrory responded. "This has a real impact on Charlotte and North Carolina families, and I'm urging our legislature to find some kind of legislative remedy as soon as possible," Charlotte Mayor Jennifer Roberts said. North Carolina's next step is not yet clear, but PayPal says it will seek an alternative location for their operations centre.

Paypal are refusing to do business with the State of North Carolina on the basis of sexuality. The precedent has already been set in court of law. Why is Paypal not being called to account? Business should keep its nose out of such politics.

If you owned a business, you could declare you're not doing business in the state of California because it's full of bleeding heart liberals, and that's entirely your prerogative. It would be your business, it belongs to you.

 

[SepiaAndDust]

No, that is not the suggestion. Where a company spends its money is not relevant to my query, it is the basis of that choice, does it breach the law or not?

Not.

Companies should be run on an a-political basis.

That's never been the case in the entire history of the world.

It also annoys me that said company is using my purchasing clout to push an agenda against my will. I do not approve of the director's personal opinions being used as my voice.

You have the right to control which companies you do business with. If you don't like what a company is doing, don't do business with them. That's the extent of your options.

This is a breach of my personal rights. I say Paypal should be called to account. It has no right to make a decision on the basis of sexuality or belief system.

The businesses have every right to do so. They're not refusing their service to North Carolinians, they're just not going to put their Ops Center there.

 

[NightHawkeye]

We have men's rooms, women's rooms and family restrooms. Why not just add transgender rooms. It would afford everyone what they want.

LOL, no it wouldn't. That's not what they want. Adding transgender facilities has already been struck down in public schools ... because "they" want complete freedom of choice in regards to restroom facilities.

That's the truth. The question I'm left to wonder with is who exactly "they" are and just why this matter of free choice in restroom facilities is so important to "them".