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Can One Sin Send a Child to Hell Forever

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Fundamentalists argue from the POV that the slightest sin is enough to warrant an eternity in hellfire because it was committed against an infinitely Holy God. I don't dispute that God is holy. But think of the billions of children, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim or otherwise, over the course of history who died in childhood after committing one sin subsequent to reaching the age of accountability and not repenting of it or even knowing they were supposed to repent. Will they all suffering unending torment in the fires of hell for that one sin? :confused:
 

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When I was very young I remember going home in the family car after visiting relatives. It was a couple hours on the highway and I'd often lay on the floor of the backseat (seatbelts weren't mandatory back then) and let the steady hum and vibration lull me to sleep. I didn't know how to drive. I didn't know how an automobile worked. All I was sure of was that my Dad, who was driving, would get us home. It never occured to me that he might purposely drive into a tree or off the road.

I've looked at a number of the thoughts expressed on this forum, and opinions, and many are about how to drive or how an automobile works. But the best way to understand is to look at our Dad (God) Who is driving, and how we understand Him.

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Suicide - deliberate escape from life. One way ticket to hell? Or is God merciful? What happens at that moment of death when life in the flesh comes to an end, and time then ceases to have influence on that person? Might God discuss and present the opportunity? He's God - He's certainly capable. Is that how He does it? ... I don't know. But He is merciful, so if there is a way of mercy He would certainly use it.

Christ died because of sin, even though He was sinless in His time as a man. He was raised from the dead because of the Father's mercy, and not because He was sinless in His time as a man. So if one sin could send us to hell then it reasons that zero sins would allow us to heaven, but then we would be greater than Christ because He was sinless and still condemned. Yet we would all agree that we are not greater than Him. Christ authored our salvation, which was to believe, trust and obey His Father - the trust part was trusting in His Father's mercy to raise Him from the dead and receive Him into glory.

We're not called to understand how everything works - there's no multiple choice quiz at the narrow gate. We're called to believe, trust and obey.

So what does God do for the little child born in a remote African village where no missionary has reached, when that child steals an apple, then gets killed a day or two later? Cast them into eternal, flaming torment? That's not my Dad. How He extends His mercy to them - I have no idea - but that He does extend His mercy is a given.

Here's a couple thoughts:
God commended and blessed the Rechabites solely because they obeyed their earthly father, Jehonadab.
Christ preached to the spirits in prison that were formerly disobedient (already dead).

God has confined us all under sin (zero sins or 10,000 sins - no difference) so that He might have mercy on us all. When John and James wondered if they should call down fire on the city that rejected Christ and His message, Jesus replied that they didn't know the manner of the Spirit that led them - that He came to save men's lives, not destroy. He further said that in seeing Jesus, we see the Father.

He that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those that seek Him diligently - or to paraphrase: must believe that God is real and that He is a good God.
 
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We are all born into sin, but I think we as christians don't realize the love that God actually has for people. I would like to share what I have learned recently:

There is a judgement for everyone - those who believe in Christ have assurance that our Judgment will end with us recieving eternal life - Those who do not know christ (those who were never introduced to him etc.) will need to rely on wether or not they were good.

We all know the verses that talk about Jesus and our need for him to forgive our sins - and this is true, Jesus did everything perfect, and any sinner can come to him and believe. He will save us and change us.

Knowing that the bible does not contradict itself, I would like to suggest reading the following: Mathew 25:31-46 and John 5:29. Pay attention to the things that a good person would do, and what the evil people did not do.

I'll put John 5:29 here, because it is short enough, " Those who have done good will rise to live, those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.

Ultimately, I think all we really need to worry about is that God can take everything into perspective - even more then you can. Let God be God, we are called to love everyone - ESPECIALLY sinners.
 
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Thank you both for your very thoughtful, cogent replies, I have been reading extensively on the topic of eternal destiny on the Internet for many months now and pondering deeply a wide swath of opinions by various authors. I am probably oversaturated with the subject and this likely led to something of an epiphany, realizing that I was falling into a state of judging God and so decided that this topic was best left alone. But for the sake of discussion I will state the main question that was going through my mind:

The Jesus of "Depart from, ye cursed..." and "I never knew you. Depart from me, ye that work iniquity" is a 180 degree turn from the Jesus who says He came to seek the salvation of the very last lost sheep. I cannot square the two portraits in my mind and so I decided to leave the whole matter in God's hands. He alone is God and He alone has the right to judge. I will respect His right to do in eternity with the wicked and unregenerate as He sees fit.
 
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R.C. Sproul once said it this say. Every sin is an act of cosmic treason against God. Since God is eternally holy and just, each sin should lead to eternal punishment. However, the grace of God is such that He sent His son down to take our guilt and propitiate His wrath for His people.
 
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It isn't a single act, or even several acts that makes someone "deserve hell."

Sin is an attitude of rebellion against God. It's a preference of self-gratification over
God.

Sin is a refusal to recognize God's authority over our lives.
 
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Fundamentalists argue from the POV that the slightest sin is enough to warrant an eternity in hellfire because it was committed against an infinitely Holy God. I don't dispute that God is holy. But think of the billions of children, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim or otherwise, over the course of history who died in childhood after committing one sin subsequent to reaching the age of accountability and not repenting of it or even knowing they were supposed to repent. Will they all suffering unending torment in the fires of hell for that one sin? :confused:
Jonah 4:11
And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

P.S.

Nineveh was a heathen (Gentile) city who's inhaitants knew not right from wrong. They did wrong, but God had Mercy after which He showed them the error of their ways and they repented. :hug:
 
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Jonah 4:11
And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

P.S.

Nineveh was a heathen (Gentile) city who's inhaitants knew not right from wrong. They did wrong, but God had Mercy after which He showed them the error of their ways and they repented. :hug:
There is someone else who didn't know how to choose right from wrong at birth.

ISA 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. 16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.

So do you think there is an age of innocence for the little ones exempt from sin including Jesus possibly?
 
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There is someone else who didn't know how to choose right from wrong at birth.

ISA 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. 16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.

So do you think there is an age of innocence for the little ones exempt from sin including Jesus possibly?
No so much a matter of being exempt from sin as it is being holy [set apart for God].

Matt 19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Ps 107:8,15,21,31
Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
 
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Fundamentalists argue from the POV that the slightest sin is enough to warrant an eternity in hellfire because it was committed against an infinitely Holy God. I don't dispute that God is holy. But think of the billions of children, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim or otherwise, over the course of history who died in childhood after committing one sin subsequent to reaching the age of accountability and not repenting of it or even knowing they were supposed to repent. Will they all suffering unending torment in the fires of hell for that one sin? :confused:
You need to provide biblical information to show where children go when they die in childhood? What do the Scriptures teach?

By the way, you need to provide evidence that Fundamentalists teach that when infants die they "warrant an eternity in hellfire".

Oz
 
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The only sin that sends anyone, child or adult, to hell is the sin of rejection of Jesus Christ.
Are you saying that remote villagers who have never ever heard of the name of Jesus, have no Bible, and have never had the Gospel preached, are going to heaven? How can they reject a Jesus Christ about whom they have heard nothing?

Oz
 
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God doesn't "send" people to hell for committing "a sin". Neither does He "send" people to hell for "rejecting" Jesus.

Hell is the real consequence of a life lived in rebellion against God. Acts of sin stem from the heart of an individual who stands opposed to God. It's the heart attitude of defiance that separates us from God.

There is only one hope for humanity to have that stubborn rebellion conquered and be justly restored into a true relationship with God: the atoning sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus.

It's the obedience that comes from faith in Christ's work that saves us from the consequence of a former life of sin.

No one is "sent" to hell for rejecting that one and only means of salvation. Rather, everyone is already on that superhighway to hell unless we grab ahold of that one and only life-saving option: Jesus.
 
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God doesn't "send" people to hell for committing "a sin". Neither does He "send" people to hell for "rejecting" Jesus.

Hell is the real consequence of a life lived in rebellion against God. Acts of sin stem from the heart of an individual who stands opposed to God. It's the heart attitude of defiance that separates us from God.

There is only one hope for humanity to have that stubborn rebellion conquered and be justly restored into a true relationship with God: the atoning sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus.

It's the obedience that comes from faith in Christ's work that saves us from the consequence of a former life of sin.

No one is "sent" to hell for rejecting that one and only means of salvation. Rather, everyone is already on that superhighway to hell unless we grab ahold of that one and only life-saving option: Jesus.
Holyrokker,

You'll need to provide biblical evidence for these statements for me to understand that this is the biblical position. Would you mind doing that for us on this Forum.

Thanks, Oz
 
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Well, one passage that seems to speak to this is Matthew 15:18-20 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person.
 
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Well, one passage that seems to speak to this is Matthew 15:18-20 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person.
However, you made a number of statements:

  1. God doesn't "send" people to hell for committing "a sin". Neither does He "send" people to hell for "rejecting" Jesus. [What Scriptural support would you use?]
  2. Hell is the real consequence of a life lived in rebellion against God. Acts of sin stem from the heart of an individual who stands opposed to God. It's the heart attitude of defiance that separates us from God. [Perhaps Matt. 15:18-20 supports this claim.]
  3. There is only one hope for humanity to have that stubborn rebellion conquered and be justly restored into a true relationship with God: the atoning sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus. [What biblical support would you offer?]
  4. It's the obedience that comes from faith in Christ's work that saves us from the consequence of a former life of sin. [How would you support this claim from Scripture? Does obedience come before or after faith in Christ's work?]
  5. No one is "sent" to hell for rejecting that one and only means of salvation. Rather, everyone is already on that superhighway to hell unless we grab ahold of that one and only life-saving option: Jesus. [What's your biblical support?]
Oz
 
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However, you made a number of statements:

  1. God doesn't "send" people to hell for committing "a sin". Neither does He "send" people to hell for "rejecting" Jesus. [What Scriptural support would you use?]
  2. Hell is the real consequence of a life lived in rebellion against God. Acts of sin stem from the heart of an individual who stands opposed to God. It's the heart attitude of defiance that separates us from God. [Perhaps Matt. 15:18-20 supports this claim.]
  3. There is only one hope for humanity to have that stubborn rebellion conquered and be justly restored into a true relationship with God: the atoning sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus. [What biblical support would you offer?]
  4. It's the obedience that comes from faith in Christ's work that saves us from the consequence of a former life of sin. [How would you support this claim from Scripture? Does obedience come before or after faith in Christ's work?]
  5. No one is "sent" to hell for rejecting that one and only means of salvation. Rather, everyone is already on that superhighway to hell unless we grab ahold of that one and only life-saving option: Jesus. [What's your biblical support?]
Oz
Which issue would you like to discuss first?
 
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God doesn't "send" people to hell for committing "a sin". Neither does He "send" people to hell for "rejecting" Jesus.

Hell is the real consequence of a life lived in rebellion against God.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death
Galatians 6:7-8 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption
 
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