Can faith prevent cardiac disease even if your diet is poor?

[SpiritPsalmist]

I am not a christian scientist I merely think in MY SITUATION where thyroid failed and so forth and the meds Im on failed. Its a learning thing.. MY doctor is an awesome woman and she really wants to help me. If my sister can receive full healingfor the same thing and have her blood go normal and bloodwork to prove it. I surely can. I was premed shortly I LOVE MEDICINE and diseases that is how I got into healing. I saw some happen and wondered what GOd can do.

Yah Lottedah. . .that's the same way I feel. Nothing wrong with the knowledge that God has given to man, and we are to put our trust in God not man.

 

[RevKidd]

I will try and give my 2 cents.

The bible says that gluttony is a sin. It also says that we are not too be lazy, and that we should take care of our bodies. One thing that leads to heart desease is bad diet and no excersize. Do you think that our faith will over come our gluttony and laziness? We can ask for forgiveness of our sins, but that does not mean the consequences of that sin will be removed.

However if God has plans for someone who die because of heart desease and he sees fit to bring him out of danger than God can do that. But we have to remember that God had set guidlines for us to follow to protect us both spiritually and physically.

 

[Iddie4him]

I will try and give my 2 cents.

The bible says that gluttony is a sin. It also says that we are not too be lazy, and that we should take care of our bodies. One thing that leads to heart desease is bad diet and no excersize. Do you think that our faith will over come our gluttony and laziness? We can ask for forgiveness of our sins, but that does not mean the consequences of that sin will be removed.

However if God has plans for someone who die because of heart desease and he sees fit to bring him out of danger than God can do that. But we have to remember that God had set guidlines for us to follow to protect us both spiritually and physically.

Let me ask you this question ?
What percentage of people die from heart disease that have had a poor diet to cause it ?
Then think about the percentage of people that die of heart disease that have gotten it genetically.......
The percentage of people that have a poor diet and die of heart disease is far less than those who die of genetically malformed hearts, malfunctioning valves etc.
Just because a person has doubts about their faith or that God can heal them, Doesn't mean that they are gonna die. The medical field has made so many advances in the repair and replacement of hearts that are bad from birth, etc.
Think about what we can do, and not what we can't do....Optimism is a wonderful thing to have.

/me puts mod hat on for a minute.
As I said before, lets get things back on track and quit arguing or this thread will be closed.

 

[RevKidd]

Let me ask you this question ?
What percentage of people die from heart disease that have had a poor diet to cause it ?
Then think about the percentage of people that die of heart disease that have gotten it genetically.......
The percentage of people that have a poor diet and die of heart disease is far less than those who die of genetically malformed hearts, malfunctioning valves etc.
Just because a person has doubts about their faith or that God can heal them, Doesn't mean that they are gonna die. The medical field has made so many advances in the repair and replacement of hearts that are bad from birth, etc.
Think about what we can do, and not what we can't do....Optimism is a wonderful thing to have.

* Iddie4him puts mod hat on for a minute.
As I said before, lets get things back on track and quit arguing or this thread will be closed.

I don't see any reason not to disagree with you. In fact your probably right about the statistics. My pastor who is 47, I believe looks to be in the best shape that any man can be in. However, genetically he has horrible cholesteral. Not because he eat's bad or or is lazy. It's his makeup. It's who he is. He know's the dangers of his cholesteral. Because he knows this he eat's right and does excersize. Is he demonstrating a lack of faith because he does eat right? Should his faith qualify him to eat whatever and whenever he wants, the foods that are not good for him despite the doctors warnings? I think we might be trying to temp God in this case. See what I'm saying?

You also have to look at the intent of the person as well. Are they conciously eating a bad diet praying to God to remove the unhealthy part of their diet? Or are a victim of circumstances who might not be able to eat the right foods all the time and put forth the right excersize due to lack of time or whatever it might be.

IMO I don't think there is a yes or no answer. We should never limit God and what he can do. But he also gave us common sense. I still have to pay the electric bill every month no matter how much I pray that God would take care of it this month...

 

[Duggie]

Just because a person has doubts about their faith or that God can heal them, Doesn't mean that they are gonna die. The medical field has made so many advances in the repair and replacement of hearts that are bad from birth, etc.
Think about what we can do, and not what we can't do....Optimism is a wonderful thing to have.

Absolutely agree!!! I thank God for the advancement of medicine. I thank God for gifted surgeons. I thank God that through faith we can be made well. I'm not currently using my medication as a crutch because I lack faith. I'm using my medication at the moment because thank God it's helping me have a better quality of life, that in no way affects how I feel about recieving my healing. I'm utterly convinced I will be fully healed.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Absolutely agree!!! I thank God for the advancement of medicine. I thank God for gifted surgeons. I thank God that through faith we can be made well. I'm not currently using my medication as a crutch because I lack faith. I'm using my medication at the moment because thank God it's helping me have a better quality of life, that in no way affects how I feel about recieving my healing. I'm utterly convinced I will be fully healed.

Me too Duggie . . .me too

 

[ABDIarise]

Faith will overcome anything and everything! Faith is limitless when aligned with God's word!

 

[Jael]

The word of God says,



Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.


Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.



If you sow to your flesh by letting your appetite control you and habitually overconsuming food that you know is not good for you, then you can expect to experience corruption (illness) in your body. God is sovereign, so He can always choose to heal even if we bring illness on ourselves, but we cannot practice gluttonly for a lifetime and then assume that He will save us from the consequences. But He is merciful and He might CHOOSE to heal someone with heart disease caused or exacerbated by a bad diet...especially if the poor diet is due to poverty or ignorance or the unavailability of nutritious food - rather than deliberate over-indulgence.


It's just like the promise that we can Mark 16:18 ...drink any deadly thing... without suffering harm. The idea is not that we should all go out and start drinking cyanide, but God is able to preserve us if the enemy attempts to attack us with poison...

 

[Blade]

I think this might have got off track..
The ? "Can faith prevent heart disease even if your diet is poor?" It (the question) says nothing about before or after. Father I thank you for your mercy. I have done things over and over again and yet to this day he has set me free, healed over and over. And then he keeps saying the same thing to me "Don't you know I love you". Jesus I am SO in love with you..

You bet 100%

So lets say I had a poor diet and had heart disease then prayed I Peter 2:24, Isaiah 53:4-6. God would heal me. I goof up and the diet goes bad would then (like some seem to apply) God would say no? Sorry seen it, been there for his mercy is for ever. God did heal me again.

God choose to heal? Peter and John in Acts no choose there. Like above I Peter 2:24, Isaiah 53:4-6 the "choose" has been done. You can not and should not look at others and say "why God?" You look to his word and stay there. God has never failed me. Seek him while he may still me found..

I believe there come's a time when we MUST seek him and STAY there untill me find, fall in love, know him. You can know the bible inside and out yet still know nothing. He looked at me one time and said "don't you know I love you". I have found that he the Great I Am can say three words and those words have a depth and meaning deeper than any sea. They are words of life