can catholics speak in tounges?

I've spoken in tongues. Before my conversion to the RCC. I can still do it but I rarely do.

Charismatic Catholics use the gift often.

I speak in Tongues as well, or at least pray. I do it in private unless I am at a CCR (Catholic Charismatic Meeting) where someone has a Gift to interpret.

You will find All the Gifts of the Holy Spirit in the Catholic Church. Mt wife has the Gift of Healing and I have the Gift of prophecy.

Through out the world today, God is working miracles through us and His Church.

Sorry folks but this is an alien concept to me. What is the Vatican's teaching on it..?

JacktheCatholic said:

You will find All the Gifts of the Holy Spirit in the Catholic Church. Mt wife has the Gift of Healing and I have the Gift of prophecy.

Through out the world today, God is working miracles through us and His Church.

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Have these 'gifts' been independently verified..?

JacktheCatholic said:

I speak in Tongues as well, or at least pray. I do it in private unless I am at a CCR (Catholic Charismatic Meeting) where someone has a Gift to interpret.

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When the Apostles were given the gift of tongues, they didn't have interpreters.. that was the entire point. Everyone understood what they were saying because they heard the words in their own tongue.

For example, it would be like an Italian reciting Danté and a Bavarian hearing it with perfect accent and idiom of his native German.

I don't know what is spoken at most of these Charismatic meetings, but it's not the gift of tongues.

S.ilvio said:

Sorry folks but this is an alien concept to me. What is the Vatican's teaching on it..?

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There have been Apostolic Letters from the last three Popes approving of it and stating it should be guided.

The CCR we attend is guided by a priest.

These are the same Gifts that scripture speaks of and the Church has always sought.

S.ilvio said:

Have these 'gifts' been independently verified..?

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Mine were, by three others.

Regina Coeli said:

When the Apostles were given the gift of tongues, they didn't have interpreters.. that was the entire point. Everyone understood what they were saying because they heard the words in their own tongue.

For example, it would be like an Italian reciting Danté and a Bavarian hearing it with perfect accent and idiom of his native German.

I don't know what is spoken at most of these Charismatic meetings, but it's not the gift of tongues.

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There are several forms of Tongues. The CCC touches on it.

JacktheCatholic said:

Mine were, by three others.

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So, what did you forsee..?

Do we have anything in writing from the Vatican on these practices..?

Speaking in tongues is for oneself and should never be done publicly unless there is someone to interpret. The other gifts of the Holy Spirit are more valuable and the most of all is love.

I found that there are those who become puffed with pride because of tongues and use it as a litmus test. And then there was the lady who declared that diabetes and other diseases was actually Satan within. Whoa! Wrong. One must be careful. Wise to be under a Priest as Jack is. The Holy Spirit moves and gives as He will and many receive His gifts. I believe there are more gifts than just those mentioned in the bible. Teaching for instance, empathy, caring for others (falls under love perhaps) etc.

I never judge if someone is close to God or "has it" by the gift of tongues. Just imo. (Speaking in tongues and then going home to rant and rave over sumting your kids did or curse out wife/husband is so wrong. Ya get my meaning hopefully.)

Is there a dictionary used by these interpretors..?

S.ilvio said:

Sorry folks but this is an alien concept to me. What is the Vatican's teaching on it..?

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The gift of speaking in tongues refers to the Holy Spirit giving the Apostles the ability to speak other languages such as Latin, Greek, etc. This allows Saint Peter to fully communicate with the population of Rome without having to have an interpreter. Likewise when Apostles went to other parts of the world.

The "speaking in tongues" that we see today in some Protestant churches, especially Pentecostal churches, and in the "Charismatic" Catholic groups is not the same thing. When they start speaking in tongues you will not see them start speaking an actual forgien langage, rather it will be nothing more than a lot of different sounds that cannot be understood any anyone.

The so-called "Speaking in Tongues" we see today is a prime example of how Protestants will take something Biblical, completely remove it from it's original context, and then twist it into something that fits their heresy church. In this context speaking in tougues is little more than an emotional high where people work themselves into a frenzy, often dancing, yelling, and waving their arms around. It is not uncommon to see someone pass out during these frenzies.

Yes, Popes have allow it. But let us call it what it is...BS! It absolutely was not part of the Catholic Church. It is a simple case of mis-guilded Catholics borrowing un-Biblical stuff from Protestants who don't consider Catholics to be Christians.

Ran

ranpleasant said:

The gift of speaking in tongues refers to the Holy Spirit giving the Apostles the ability to speak other languages such as Latin, Greek, etc. This allows Saint Peter to fully communicate with the population of Rome without having to have an interpreter. Likewise when Apostles went to other parts of the world.

The "speaking in tongues" that we see today in some Protestant churches, especially Pentecostal churches, and in the "Charismatic" Catholic groups is not the same thing. When they start speaking in tongues you will not see them start speaking an actual forgien langage, rather it will be nothing more than a lot of different sounds that cannot be understood any anyone.

The so-called "Speaking in Tongues" we see today is a prime example of how Protestants will take something Biblical, completely remove it from it's original context, and then twist it into something that fits their heresy church. In this context speaking in tougues is little more than an emotional high where people work themselves into a frenzy, often dancing, yelling, and waving their arms around. It is not uncommon to see someone pass out during these frenzies.

Yes, Popes have allow it. But let us call it what it is...BS! It absolutely was not part of the Catholic Church. It is a simple case of mis-guilded Catholics borrowing un-Biblical stuff from Protestants who don't consider Catholics to be Christians.

Ran

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That was my understanding of both the Apostles speaking in tongues (actual languages) and the garbled, incomprehendable stuff we see in some Protestant circles.

I had no idea it was practiced in Catholicism and I must admit it troubles me...

Atha said:

i was just wondering because i have been catholic all my life, and i speak in tounges sometimes when i pray, is it normal for the catholics to be blessed in this way of the spirit....

i have gone to other christian groups and they have recieved word from The Holy Spirit and i know it is true because it was about me, and i was just wondering if that was something that could enter into the catholic faith and help the priests in their holy ways...

amen..

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as there are many different gifts of tongues as we see in scripture, they are declared a sign of a believer in Saint Mark 16:17 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

thegospelisgoodnews said:

as there are many different gifts of tongues as we see in scripture, they are declared a sign of a believer in Saint Mark 16:17 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

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Very vague isn't it...

S.ilvio said:

Very vague isn't it...

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no doubt you have been soured to the gifts of tongues by the many abuses we see all over the place whether on TV, or some fancy dressed TBN guy starts unbiblically using what he is calling tongues (who knows if it is or not God knows) either way it is done unbiblically, not adhering to what we see taught by the apostle Paul. I have to tell you if you have ever been in the presence where the gifts of the Holy Spirit are being used correctly and biblically as seen in scripture, you would not be so quick to throw the baby out with the bath water........but as we see today 90% of most denominations using the gifts are not keeping in line with what is taught..............from a couple of your post I kinda get the impression that your under the understanding that the apostles speaking in tongues were preaching the gospel in the language of the people present, look for your self on this issue, the people heard the apostles in their own language declare the wonderful works of God,(see Acts 2:11 this language is always glorifying God, whether known or unknown. nobody present heard the gospel in their language and was saved......we know this by those present who responded "whatever could this mean" (Acts 2:12) the response of Peter is fulfilment of the prophet Joel 28 “And afterward,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your old men will dream dreams,
your young men will see visions.
29 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days.
30 I will show wonders in the heavens
and on the earth,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
31 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.
32 And everyone who calls
on the name of the LORD will be saved;
for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
there will be deliverance,
as the LORD has said,
even among the survivors
whom the LORD calls...............................................Now then.......you need to only ask yourself one question are we in the Last days even more so today then when Peter said this is the fulfilment of prophesy

S.ilvio said:

So, what did you forsee..?

Do we have anything in writing from the Vatican on these practices..?

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It does not necessarily work that way. Prophets are those that hear God. It does not mean I can foresee the future.

Let me reassure you about these Gifts by using Church documents:

CCC

2004 Among the special graces ought to be mentioned the graces of state that accompany the exercise of the responsibilities of the Christian life and of the ministries within the Church:

Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith; if service, in our serving; he who teaches, in his teaching; he who exhorts, in his exhortation; he who contributes, in liberality; he who gives aid, with zeal; he who does acts of mercy, with cheerfulness.55

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Catholic Dictionary:

The Hebrew words for prophet and prophecy, nabi and hozeh, mean: the first "interpreter and mouthpiece of God"; the second, the vision or revelation interpreted. A prophet in the Old Testament was one who made known the will of God, not always by foretelling the future, but often by exposing and rebuking evil, by standing lor the law. Abraham, Moses, Samuel, Balaam, Elias, Eliseus, and Nathan are mentioned as prophets. The prophets whose writings form a book of the Old Testament are mentioned in the article on the Books of the Bible. We gather from the prophetic books that prophecy was a vocation; that it required supernatural knowledge, revelation of some truths or facts by God and inspiration to utter and impress these on men. The bulk of the prophecies of the Old Testament concerns the punishment of guilty nations, and the fulfilment of the ancient promises. This is to bring the new and final Covenant. Few will live to see or be worthy of it; from the remnant will arise the Messianic Kingdom, the nations united under the great king, the Son of David. The prophecies mentioned in the New Testament are those of Zachary, Saint Elizabeth, Simeon, Anna, Saint John the Baptist, and of Our Lord.

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Prophecy is a message from God, a manifestation of the Spirit to be used for the general good, because those who prophesy build up, exhort and comfort the community (1 Cor. 12:7; 14:3). It can be expressed through a sentence, a vision or a text from the Bible.

In the prayer groups in the CCR [Catholic Charismatic Renewal] there are many interventions that are inspired by the Holy Spirit: sometimes, some people feel moved by the Spirit to share an experience, to say a prayer or to read a text clearly guided by God; other times, an idea, a vision or an enlightenment received is communicated to the others. When we speak of prophecy we are referring to communications from the Lord. These can be expressed in a simple and direct way, for example:"I am with you, do not be afraid..." through a message in tongues and its interpretation, through a prophetic song or a vision received...

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More: Teachings - The Gift of Prophecy



APPROVAL:

This quote is from the special hour and a half audience with the Pope in Vatican City on December 11, 1979:

"...This is my first meeting with you, Catholic charismatics . . . I have always belonged to this renewal in the Holy Spirit. . . . I am convinced that this movement is a sign of his action. The world is much in need of this action of the Holy Spirit, and it needs many instruments for this action. . . . Through this action, the Holy Spirit comes to the human spirit, and from this moment we begin to live again, to find our very selves, to find our identity, our total humanity. Consequently, I am convinced that this movement is a very important component in the total renewal of the church, in this spiritual renewal of the church."

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Pope John Paul II Affirms the Charismatic Renewal

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This quote is from the Pope's private audience on May 15, 1987.


"Dear Brothers and Sisters:


"In the peace and joy of the Holy Spirit I welcome all of you who have come to Rome for the Sixth International Leaders' Conference of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal. I am very happy to meet with you today and I wish to assure you that your love for Christ and your openness to the Spirit of Truth are a most valuable witness in the Church's mission in the world. . . . This year [1987] marks the 20 th anniversary of the charismatic renewal in the Catholic Church. The vigor and fruitfulness of the renewal certainly attest to the powerful presence of the Holy Spirit at work in the Church in these years after the Second Vatican Council. . . . The charismatic renewal is an eloquent manifestation of this vitality today, a bold statement of what 'the Spirit is saying to the churches' (Revelations 2:7) as we approach the close of the second millennium. For us, the Spirit of the Lord is upon us, each one of us, who have been born anew in the saving waters of Baptism. The Spirit prompts us to go forth in faith 'to preach good news to the poor' the poor in material things, the poor in spiritual gifts, the poor in mind and body."

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Here is an extract from the private address the Holy Father granted on Saturday, April 4, 1998:

"This is a year [dedicated to the Holy Spirit in preparation for the Great Jubilee] which you, the members of the Renewal, are called to live with special intensity and commitment. . . . How can we fail to give thanks for the precious spiritual fruits that the Renewal has produced in the life of the Church and in the lives of so many people? How many lay faithful—men and women, youth, adults, and older people—have been able to experience the amazing power of the Spirit and His gifts in their lives! How many people have rediscovered their faith, a desire for prayer, the power and beauty of the Word of God, which is expressed in generous service for the mission of the Church! How many lives were deeply changed! For all of this I wish to praise and thank the Holy Spirit with you today. . . . I thank you for what you are doing, and I ask you to persevere in your commitment."

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Address to the Catholic Fraternity of Charismatic Covenant
Communities and Fellowships Hall of Blessings
Friday, 31 October, 2008

"As I have been able to affirm in other circumstances, the Ecclesial Movements and New Comunities which blossomed after the Second Vatican Council, constitute a unique gift of the Lord and a precious resource for the life of the Church. They should be accepted with trust and valued for the various contributions they place at the service of the common benefit in a an ordered and fruitful way. . . "

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S.ilvio said:

Is there a dictionary used by these interpretors..?

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EWTN has a web page that helps explain this movement in the Church, it is an approved movement as well.

Link: Charismatic Renewal - In General

After that here is another:

St. Paul pauses to emphasize the multiplicity of gifts: "To one the Spirit gives wisdom in discourse, to another the power to express knowledge. Through the Spirit one receives faith; by the same Spirit another is given the gift of healing, and still another miraculous powers. Prophecy is given to one.... One receives the gift of tongues" (1 Cor 12:8-10). Here we must note that the Apostle's list is not meant to be exhaustive. Paul is indicating the gifts which were particularly significant for the Church at that time. These gifts were still manifested in later eras, but without limiting, neither at the beginning nor later, all of the room available for the ever new charisms which the Holy Spirit can give in response to new needs. Therefore, "to each person the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good" (1 Cor 12:7). When new demands and new problems arise for the community, the history of the Church reveals the presence of new gifts.

In any case, whatever type of gift it may be, even when it seems primarily to serve the person who receives it (for example in glossolalia, which the Apostle speaks about (cf. 1 Cor 14:5-18), they all merge together in some way for the common good. They serve to build up "a Body": "It was in one Spirit that all of us...were baptized into one body. All of us have been given to drink of the one Spirit" (1 Cor 12:13). Hence Paul's recommendation to the Corinthians: "Since you have set your hearts on spiritual gifts, try to be rich in those that build up the Church" (1 Cor 14:12). In the same context we find the exhortation to "seek...the gift of prophecy" (1 Cor 14:1), which is more "useful" to the community than that of tongues. "Whoever speaks in a tongue is talking not to people but to God. No one understands him because he utters mysteries in the Spirit. The prophet on the other hand, speaks to people for their upbuilding, their encouragement, their consolation. He...builds up the Church" (1 Cor 14:2-3).

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The Spirit: Source of Spiritual Gifts