Can Amil prove with Scripture that the beast is in the pit during the thousand years?

[DavidPT]

It seems to me, if Amil can prove that with Scripture, the debate between Premil vs Amil is over. Premil has the beast in the LOF during the thousand years. But if it is in the pit instead, that obviously contradicts Premil, thus Premil can't work. We know satan is in the pit during the thousand years because the text tells us so. We also know the beast is in the pit at some point if it ascends out of it at some point. Should we assume the pit doesn't even exist until the beginning of the thousand years, or that it does exist before the thousand years, but no one is ever cast into it until the beginning of the thousand years, thus it is empty before the thousand years?

As to the above, it doesn't matter if the pit is literal or not literal, those questions are still relevant even if the pit is not literal.

Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

In this passage we see the pit being opened and locusts emerging. It doesn't matter what these locusts might be, the point is, they are ascending out of the pit once it is opened, obviously implying they were imprisoned in the pit at an earlier time. This raises a cpl of questions. When were they initially cast into the pit and why were they? When are they released from the pit? We know it's during the 5th trumpet. But when is the 5th trumpet meaning, in relation to the thousand years? There are only 3 options. Is it meaning before the thousand years? During the thousand years? Or after the thousand years?

Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

This is obviously meaning at the beginning of the thousand years. As to these locusts in ch 9, and even the beast as well, where does this text ever show either of those being cast into the pit with satan in the beginning of thousand years? I don't see that in the text anywhere. The text indicates that satan is bound so that he should deceive the nations no more. Assuming the locusts are cast in when satan is, does that mean they too are cast in so that they should deceive the nations no more either? If the beast is cast in when satan is, is that so that it should deceive the nations no more either?

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Does not verse 10 already have the beast and fp in the LOF when satan is loosed? Does any of the above also mention that the beast is loosed from the pit when satan is? Does any of the above also mention that the locusts are loosed when satan is?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

It seems to me, if Amil can prove that with Scripture, the debate between Premil vs Amil is over. Premil has the beast in the LOF during the thousand years. But if it is in the pit instead, that obviously contradicts Premil, thus Premil can't work. We know satan is in the pit during the thousand years because the text tells us so. We also know the beast is in the pit at some point if it ascends out of it at some point. Should we assume the pit doesn't even exist until the beginning of the thousand years, or that it does exist before the thousand years, but no one is ever cast into it until the beginning of the thousand years, thus it is empty before the thousand years?

As to the above, it doesn't matter if the pit is literal or not literal, those questions are still relevant even if the pit is not literal.

Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

In this passage we see the pit being opened and locusts emerging. It doesn't matter what these locusts might be, the point is, they are ascending out of the pit once it is opened, obviously implying they were imprisoned in the pit at an earlier time. This raises a cpl of questions. When were they initially cast into the pit and why were they? When are they released from the pit? We know it's during the 5th trumpet. But when is the 5th trumpet meaning, in relation to the thousand years? There are only 3 options. Is it meaning before the thousand years? During the thousand years? Or after the thousand years?

Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

This is obviously meaning at the beginning of the thousand years. As to these locusts in ch 9, and even the beast as well, where does this text ever show either of those being cast into the pit with satan in the beginning of thousand years? I don't see that in the text anywhere. The text indicates that satan is bound so that he should deceive the nations no more. Assuming the locusts are cast in when satan is, does that mean they too are cast in so that they should deceive the nations no more either? If the beast is cast in when satan is, is that so that it should deceive the nations no more either?

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Does not verse 10 already have the beast and fp in the LOF when satan is loosed? Does any of the above also mention that the beast is loosed from the pit when satan is? Does any of the above also mention that the locusts are loosed when satan is?

This may be a non starter. Amillennials do not adhere to the 1000 year reign.
Blessings

 

[DavidPT]

This may be a non starter. Amillennials do not adhere to the 1000 year reign.
Blessings

If you are meaning after the 2nd coming in the end of this age, yes I fully realize they don't, because if they did, they would be Premils not Amils. The point of the OP, if the beast is in the pit during the thousand years, Amil is the correct position not Premil. Amil first has to prove with Scripture that the beast is in the pit during the thousand years, in order for this debate between Premil vs Amil to be over with, though.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

If you are meaning after the 2nd coming in the end of this age, yes I fully realize they don't, because if they did, they would be Premils not Amils. The point of the OP, if the beast is in the pit during the thousand years, Amil is the correct position not Premil. Amil first has to prove with Scripture that the beast is in the pit during the thousand years, in order for this debate between Premil vs Amil to be over with, though.

No I am not meaning after the 2nd comming. I am saying , there is no such thing as a 1000 year reign for Amillennials. This time period represents the time before the last day so it is a long period of time.
As far as Satan, aka the " strongman" or beast, Jesus Christ of Nazareth made it clear he is bound. Regenerated Christians walk in the Holy Spirit now. " Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world".

 

[Jake Arsenal]

The principle problem for everyone trying to understand prophesy is really simple as explained in Isaiah 28.

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

skipping to verse 16

16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

If anyone reads the Scriptures without following the rule of precept upon precept(Christ being the first Precept according to John 1:1-5), they go, and fall backward, are broken, and snared, and taken.

 

[DavidPT]

The principle problem for everyone trying to understand prophesy is really simple as explained in Isaiah 28.

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

skipping to verse 16

16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

If anyone reads the Scriptures without following the rule of precept upon precept(Christ being the first Precept according to John 1:1-5), they go, and fall backward, are broken, and snared, and taken.

What point are you trying to make here, in regards to what the OP is about? Does this point, whatever it is, mean we should assume the thousand years are prior to the 2nd coming, or that we should instead assume it is after the 2nd coming? Does your point work with both assumptions, or only work with one of them? If the latter, which one and why?

 

[DavidPT]

No I am not meaning after the 2nd comming. I am saying , there is no such thing as a 1000 year reign for Amillennials. This time period represents the time before the last day so it is a long period of time.
As far as Satan, aka the " strongman" or beast, Jesus Christ of Nazareth made it clear he is bound. Regenerated Christians walk in the Holy Spirit now. " Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world".

Actually there is such a thing as a thousand year reign for Amil except it's not meaning a literal thousand years. It is meaning, well at least according to some views of Amil, from the time of the cross until satan is loosed from the pit. The latter then being followed by the 2nd coming in the end of this age. Both views agree, Premil and Amil, that the beast has already ascended out of the pit when the 2nd coming occurs. Premil sees the beast being cast into the LOF at the 2nd coming, as does Amil.

What Premil does not see at the 2nd coming is satan also being cast into the LOF at that time. Premil sees satan being cast into the pit instead, thus when satan is loosed after the thousand years, the beast is not also loosed because the beast is not even in the pit during the thousand years, it's in the LOF.

Amil OTOH apparently sees the beast being cast into the pit when satan is, and then ascending from the pit when satan does.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Actually there is such a thing as a thousand year reign for Amil except it's not meaning a literal thousand years. It is meaning, well at least according to some views of Amil, from the time of the cross until satan is loosed from the pit. The latter then being followed by the 2nd coming in the end of this age. Both views agree, Premil and Amil, that the beast has already ascended out of the pit when the 2nd coming occurs. Premil sees the beast being cast into the LOF at the 2nd coming, as does Amil.

What Premil does not see at the 2nd coming is satan also being cast into the LOF at that time. Premil sees satan being cast into the pit instead, thus when satan is loosed after the thousand years, the beast is not also loosed because the beast is not even in the pit during the thousand years, it's in the LOF.

Amil OTOH apparently sees the beast being cast into the pit when satan is, and then ascending from the pit when satan does.

Understood. Lots of room for disagreement on this issue. My position holds the Millennium as symbolic and Satan bound until the last day, judgment day, when all will be resurrected, some to everlasting life and some to condemnation, Satans final resting place.
Thanks for engaging.
Blessings

 

[DavidPT]

Understood. Lots of room for disagreement on this issue. My position holds the Millennium as symbolic and Satan bound until the last day, judgment day, when all will be resurrected, some to everlasting life and some to condemnation, Satans final resting place.
Thanks for engaging.
Blessings

Do you then think when satan is loosed that this is the last day? The text says he is loosed for a little season. Obviously, when he is loosed he is not still bound. The text also says of the first resurrection, and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Obviously, they are not still reigning a thousand years, whether a literal thousand is meant, or that a symbolic one is meant, during satan's little season.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Do you then think when satan is loosed that this is the last day? The text says he is loosed for a little season. Obviously, when he is loosed he is not still bound. The text also says of the first resurrection, and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Obviously, they are not still reigning a thousand years, whether a literal thousand is meant, or that a symbolic one is meant, during satan's little season.

What is a little season in God's time frame? I say a " twinkle of the eye". Judgment day is a big deal.

 

[Timtofly]

This may be a non starter. Amillennials do not adhere to the 1000 year reign.
Blessings

This is misrepresenting Amil. They adhere to an indefinite period of time called the here and now. The time between the first and second comings.

Some amil adhere to a personal opinion that Revelation is just a series of recapitulations of historical significance. Revelation 20 just being the most defined recap. No other recap is clearly defined, just assumed to exist to back up the notion, Revelation 20 just has to be the last mentioned historical recap.

Revelation 12 starts out with the birth of Christ, but never defines a Second Coming. In fact no recap really defines a Second Coming period. There are a lot of assumptions in the recap method.

Amil really do not have Christ in the flesh ever appearing on earth at a Second Coming event. The earth is burnt to a crisp, therefore not allowing a place to even return to.

 

[Timtofly]

As far as Satan, aka the " strongman" or beast, Jesus Christ of Nazareth made it clear he is bound. Regenerated Christians walk in the Holy Spirit now. " Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world".

Satan in the world is not the same thing as Satan in the pit.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Satan in the world is not the same thing as Satan in the pit.

Knowing Revelation is written in apocalyptic language, symbolism and imagery, it is not too far of a strech to consider the earth as the pit since it will at some point be quenched with fire.
Blessings

 

[Timtofly]

Knowing Revelation is written in apocalyptic language, symbolism and imagery, it is not too far of a strech to consider the earth as the pit since it will at some point be quenched with fire.
Blessings

That would mean we are also bound in the pit. How far do you take your symbolism? Is there a deeper pit called sheol? Is there a surface of the earth above us, not considered part of the pit?

Being in the pit is being with the physically dead. Is there no difference then between life and death? Those living and those dead are simply all in the grave equally then?

The point of the pit is to separate Satan from those physically alive on earth, and spiritually as well. Deception is in the mind, spiritual, not the functions of the physical body.

If we are all in the same pit together now, we are already judged. What is the purpose of even allowing Satan to be loosed if there is no where to be loosed to? Certainly Satan is not going to deceive those in heaven, already redeemed.

 

[Jake Arsenal]

What point are you trying to make here, in regards to what the OP is about? Does this point, whatever it is, mean we should assume the thousand years are prior to the 2nd coming, or that we should instead assume it is after the 2nd coming? Does your point work with both assumptions, or only work with one of them? If the latter, which one and why?

The point of the Scriptures referenced in the OP is Jesus Christ's return and final victory. Your post is so focused on the pieces that you forgot the foundation. What is the point of the thousand years you are discussing? they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years(Revelation 20:4). Jesus Christ is not mentioned once in your entire OP. You even managed to skip the very verses that say His NAME and that mention the point of the Scriptures referenced.

 

[DavidPT]

What is a little season in God's time frame? I say a " twinkle of the eye". Judgment day is a big deal.

It matters from our perspective, though. For example, if his little season consists of a few years, that's not something that passes before us in a twinkling of an eye.

 

[DavidPT]

What is the point of the thousand years you are discussing? they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years(Revelation 20:4). Jesus Christ is not mentioned once in your entire OP. You even managed to skip the very verses that say His NAME and that mention the point of the Scriptures referenced.

Those things have been discussed and debated to no end. I tend to think the purpose of the thousand years, in regards to reigning with Christ, involves saints being bodily resurrected, the same way Christ was, then they ruling over the surviving nations with a rod of iron. Amils think otherwise. I and other Premils have things that we feel support our view and Amils have things they feel support their view. Thus, the debate is basically in vain since neither side is willing to change their position, regardless. Therefore, the reason for this OP, as in, another way to maybe figure out where the thousand years should be placed. If it can be undeniably shown with Scripture that the beast is in the pit during the thousand years, the debate is over. That proves Amil, thus debunks Premil. Which means we can now all be on the same page. Realistically though, we are all never going to be on the same page in regards to some of this, yet, it doesn't hurt to at least try to be.

 

[Jake Arsenal]

it doesn't hurt to at least try to be.

It does if we don't put Christ first. That's why people can read the exact same Scriptures and understand it so differently.

Christian unity can only be in Christ.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

That would mean we are also bound in the pit. How far do you take your symbolism? Is there a deeper pit called sheol? Is there a surface of the earth above us, not considered part of the pit?

Being in the pit is being with the physically dead. Is there no difference then between life and death? Those living and those dead are simply all in the grave equally then?

The point of the pit is to separate Satan from those physically alive on earth, and spiritually as well. Deception is in the mind, spiritual, not the functions of the physical body.

If we are all in the same pit together now, we are already judged. What is the purpose of even allowing Satan to be loosed if there is no where to be loosed to? Certainly Satan is not going to deceive those in heaven, already redeemed.

Revelation visits Isaiah quite often.
17 Behold, it was for my welfare that I had great bitterness; but in love you have delivered my life from the pit of destruction, for you have cast all my sins behind your back. 18 For Sheol does not thank you; death does not praise you; those who go down to the pit do not hope for your faithfulness. 19 The living, the living, he thanks you, as I do this day; the father makes known to the children your faithfulness.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

It seems to me, if Amil can prove that with Scripture, the debate between Premil vs Amil is over.

One thing is clear to me after all the years that I've debated with you. There is nothing we Amils can do to prove anything to you. No matter what we do you come up with a way to question it and you don't accept it. So, please don't give the impression that it's even possible for us to convince you about this when we haven't been able to do so after all these years. I don't think any Amil is going to say anything new in this thread that we haven't already told you multiple times before. But, we'll see. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Premil has the beast in the LOF during the thousand years. But if it is in the pit instead, that obviously contradicts Premil, thus Premil can't work. We know satan is in the pit during the thousand years because the text tells us so. We also know the beast is in the pit at some point if it ascends out of it at some point. Should we assume the pit doesn't even exist until the beginning of the thousand years, or that it does exist before the thousand years, but no one is ever cast into it until the beginning of the thousand years, thus it is empty before the thousand years?

What difference does this make exactly? I'm not seeing the point of your question. What we can say is that the pit existed at the time John wrote the book because he indicated that the beast was in the pit at the time in Revelation 17:8. Maybe the reason for your question will become clear as I continue reading your post.

As to the above, it doesn't matter if the pit is literal or not literal, those questions are still relevant even if the pit is not literal.

Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

In this passage we see the pit being opened and locusts emerging. It doesn't matter what these locusts might be, the point is, they are ascending out of the pit once it is opened, obviously implying they were imprisoned in the pit at an earlier time. This raises a cpl of questions. When were they initially cast into the pit and why were they? When are they released from the pit? We know it's during the 5th trumpet. But when is the 5th trumpet meaning, in relation to the thousand years? There are only 3 options. Is it meaning before the thousand years? During the thousand years? Or after the thousand years?

Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

This is obviously meaning at the beginning of the thousand years. As to these locusts in ch 9, and even the beast as well, where does this text ever show either of those being cast into the pit with satan in the beginning of thousand years? I don't see that in the text anywhere. The text indicates that satan is bound so that he should deceive the nations no more. Assuming the locusts are cast in when satan is, does that mean they too are cast in so that they should deceive the nations no more either? If the beast is cast in when satan is, is that so that it should deceive the nations no more either?

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Does not verse 10 already have the beast and fp in the LOF when satan is loosed?

Yes, but it doesn't say how long they've been there, so this is not evidence for Premil.

Does any of the above also mention that the beast is loosed from the pit when satan is?

No, but does that have to be explicitly stated in order to be true? I don't believe so. Does Revelation 20 mention anyone but those who were martyred by the beast as having part in the first resurrection? Not specifically. Yet, you and I both believe that all believers have part in the first resurrection, anyway. Why? Because that is what we see taught in other scripture. We didn't need it to be explicitly spelled out to us in Revelation 20 in order to come to that conclusion. But, for some reason, you are requiring it to explicitly say that the beast is loosed from the pit when Satan is, in order for that to be true.

What about how Revelation 13 gives the impression that the dragon (Satan) and the beast work together? Why would God want only the beast to be cast into the pit at a given time, but not the dragon, Satan, as well? Do you believe there is anything Satan can't do without the beast? If so, what? If not, then what is the point of the beast being cast into the pit from your perspective?

Does any of the above also mention that the locusts are loosed when satan is?

See above. It doesn't need to be explicitly stated in order to be true. If only you recognized that the locusts represent Satan's fallen angels (Rev 12:9, Matt 25:41) then you would also recognize that Abaddon (Apollyon) is just another name for the devil who we normally call Satan. If you recognized that, then you would recognize that Revelation 9 portrays the loosing of Satan and his angels.

Also, since we both know that the beast was in the pit as of the time the book of Revelation was written, then it only follows that the beast will ascend from the pit at the fifth trumpet as well. It doesn't explicitly say that, but it's something we can deduce from other scripture. I think we can also deduce when the beast is loosed in relation to when the dragon, Satan, is loosed by deducing it from other scripture as well.

I can tell you right now that there isn't any scripture explicitly stating that the beast and Satan are loosed at the same time (which everyone already knew before you created this thread), so if that's what you require in order to be convinced then it's never going to happen.