Can a Christian be a Freemason???

[Rev Wayne]

Can you explain your deliberate rebellion against the clear position of your own denomination by you being a Mason?

Hey, O.F.F., I notice you have a designation on your post that identifies you as an "Ex-Mason for Jesus." When I made mention of your being a member of EMFJ in a recent post, however, I was very soon contacted by email by Duane Washum, notifying me that I was incorrect in my statement, and disavowing any affiliation or connection on your part or on the part of your organization "O.F.F." with the Ex-Masons for Jesus organization.

Kinda misleading for you to continue to carry that designation by your name on this forum then, isn't it, since apparently they have wisely severed all ties with you? Makes you wonder, too, why that happened. Evidently they don't feel you maintain the standards and ideals of the organization?

I'm sure you've got some reply prepared, defending this from the standpoint that you certainly are an "ex-Mason," and you certainly are "for Jesus," and that therefore you have every right to have that particular phrase next to your name. But it's pretty clear what it's there for, and it's just as clear that it's misleading because of the well-known organization that bears that name.

So your comments about Wayseer sound like the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Jester4kicks]

Hey, O.F.F., I notice you have a designation on your post that identifies you as an "Ex-Mason for Jesus." When I made mention of your being a member of EMFJ in a recent post, however, I was very soon contacted by email by Duane Washum, notifying me that I was incorrect in my statement, and disavowing any affiliation or connection on your part or on the part of your organization "O.F.F." with the Ex-Masons for Jesus organization.

Kinda misleading for you to continue to carry that designation by your name on this forum then, isn't it, since apparently they have wisely severed all ties with you? Makes you wonder, too, why that happened. Evidently they don't feel you maintain the standards and ideals of the organization?

I'm sure you've got some reply prepared, defending this from the standpoint that you certainly are an "ex-Mason," and you certainly are "for Jesus," and that therefore you have every right to have that particular phrase next to your name. But it's pretty clear what it's there for, and it's just as clear that it's misleading because of the well-known organization that bears that name.

So your comments about Wayseer sound like the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[O.F.F.]

I'm sure you've got some reply prepared, defending this from the standpoint that you certainly are an "ex-Mason," and you certainly are "for Jesus," and that therefore you have every right to have that particular phrase next to your name. But it's pretty clear what it's there for, and it's just as clear that it's misleading because of the well-known organization that bears that name. So your comments about Wayseer sound like the pot calling the kettle black.

You are absolutely correct in stating that I have every right to bear the name Ex-Mason for Jesus, regardless to what anyone tells you. However, my post was about the position of ones denomination against Freemasonry.

Ex-Mason's for Jesus (EMFJ) is NOT a Christian denomination. Yet, the Australian Anglican is Wayseer's Christian denomination. But even if EMFJ were a Christian denomination, I have complied with its position against Freemasonry. But Wayseer has done the exact opposite with his.

So both your post, and your comment about "the pot calling the kettle black" is both irrelevant and absurd. The only thing misleading is you placing the title "Rev" before your name, as if you really are a defender of the Christian faith, while actually being a defender of the heresy of the Masonic faith.

 

[Rev Wayne]

You are absolutely correct in stating that I have every right to bear the name Ex-Mason for Jesus

I never said you did, so you are INCORRECT in making that assumption. I simply said you would probably try to defend the use of another organization's name, an organization which kicked you out on your rear. Seems you can't maintain a membership with anyone very well. When you aren't reneging on your promises to one, you're getting canned by another.

The fact is, as an EX-MEMBER of the organization bearing that name, you yourself know that by continuing to use their name, you falsely imply that you are still a member of that group. Your defense of your use of it is probably the reason I was contacted by Mr. Washum and that information passed along to me in the first place. Apparently he wishes it to be known beyond all doubt that you have no connections with EMFJ. The fact that he would pass the information along to someone who is not exactly a friend of either his organization or yours, is quite telling.

I was told this months ago, but said nothing. But since you choose to engage in attempted character assassination by applying a very similar principle, it seems an appropriate time and situation to bring it up.

And I WAS "absolutely correct" in predicting this bogus defense.

However, my post was about the position of ones denomination against Freemasonry.

Then, your post was in error. One's Diocese is not one's denomination.

Ex-Mason's for Jesus (EMFJ) is NOT a Christian denomination.

How true. From my own experiences with them, I'd say your statement is doubly true: they appear to be neither Christian nor a denomination.

But even if EMFJ were a Christian denomination, I have complied with its position against Freemasonry.

If that were true, they wouldn't have booted you out. And it's glaringly obvious that "I have complied with its position against Freemasonry" is not the equivalent of a denial, so I have to assume that I was told the truth by Mr. Washum, and that you are simply engaging in your usual evasiveness, walking all around the truth without ever admitting it, and without ever actually making a denial either.

So both your post, and your comment about "the pot calling the kettle black" is both irrelevant and absurd.

You seem to think I was trying to make a point-for-point comparison between the situation you criticized, and the statement I made in reply. No such direct comparison was intended--but I have a feeling you knew that already and are simply grinding fodder.

My point was simply, you are pointing at things you consider inconsistent on his part, so I was pointing out that you have inconsistencies of your own. You've had quite a few of them in the past, too, which have been enumerated plenty of times both here and elsewhere.

I'm not sure which of these brought about your dismissal from the organization to which you formerly belonged; perhaps it was simply the accumulation of them that finally got you booted.

The fact is, you have abandoned discussion and resorted to ad hominem once again. It's been a long-standing pattern on this and other forums for quite some time. My post in return to you was simply to remind you that you live in a glass house and can't throw stones very far, or very hard, without bringing your house down around your head.

It is disingenous indeed for you to squawk about anyone's membership in organizations which, in your opinion, they should not belong. Since you have never denied sending an email to Ed King at masonicinfo claiming to retain membership in the lodge, boldly claiming that "once a Mason, always a Mason," and since I have received personal assurance from Mr. King himself that the information on his site is true, I'd say you have been very MUCH guilty of "the pot calling the kettle black," just as I stated. In principle, it's the same, because it goes without saying that someone claiming "EX-Mason" status should not be retaining membership in the lodge or making statements like "once a Mason, always a Mason." That is duplicity. There is a biblical word for it, too.

The only thing misleading is you placing the title "Rev" before your name, as if you really are a defender of the Christian faith, while actually being a defender of the heresy of the Masonic faith.

God called me to the preaching ministry, and God led me to join the lodge, after first guiding me in a process of discovering all the lies created against it, and the misunderstanding portrayed by its critics. If you have a problem with it, you should take it up with Him.

 

[Rev Wayne]

I'm sure Wayseer can give us better information when he responds, as I am sure he will, but since he has spoken up for me recently, I will return the favor.

I don't pretend to know all there is about Anglicanism, and particularly not about Australian Anglicanism, and even more particularly not about their structure and polity.

But I can't help but notice that Wayseer states in his profile that he is a member of St. Paul's, and also that he hails from Maryborough, Queensland. Since Maryborough is much closer to Brisbane than to Sydney, I couldn't help but wonder whether he might be a member in a different diocese, the Diocese of Brisbane, rather than of Sydney, from which the quoted document derives.

As usual, with a minimum of homework and a maximum of sweeping generalizations, O.F.F. seems to have gone off on a bender of inaccuracies. The Brisbane Diocese appears to be the one that Wayseer is more likely a member.



Of course, my information, or my understanding of it, may just as easily be in error, but from what I'm seeing, it appears that O.F.F. has jumped to several conclusions without sufficient justification for it. It just may very well be that the accusation of being in "deliberate rebellion against the clear position of your own denomination" was a red herring from the outset, especially since it is those in the Sydney Diocese who have expressed this opinion, and NOT the "denomination," as was falsely claimed.

Clearly within the Anglican denomination in Australia there is no consensus of opinion on this matter. In a news report after the release of the Sydney statement, on the Anglican Communion website, a response was offered by the Rt Revd George Browning, Bishop of the Diocese of Canberra & Goulburn:

“A recent resolution adopted by the Sydney Synod was based on the concept that Freemasonry and Christianity are incompatible.
The resolution was tabled by Reverend Bill Winthrop of Lithgow and is based on his own perception of what Freemasonry represents.
My only gauge of Freemasonry and of Freemasons is my observation of the quality of their lives. In my 37 years of ministry I have generally found Freemasons to be people with integrity and with a heightened sense of commitment to the community.
The Anglican Church is a community in which there is scope for office holders to hold a range of opinions on a number of issues. The debates and resolutions in our synods are indicative of the tolerance and strength of the Church. Although differences in opinion may exist, our community is bound together by a commitment to the over-riding love of God in Christ, and compassion and tolerance that Christ taught us.
Personally, I have been more distressed by incidents where the compassion of the church has been withheld on the simple grounds that family members were Freemasons. It is very difficult to understand how these incidents portray the true Christian spirit.
The resolution is not binding on folk in the Diocese of Sydney and of little relevance to those outside. Therefore this issue is essentially a matter between a rector and members of his/her congregation.
I call on all clergy and lay people within the Church to meet Freemasons with respect and a listening ear, and for Anglican Freemasons to be alert to possible issues that may be a cause of conflict for them in living out their Christian faith.”

The highlight, of course, is mine, and I think that one statement says it all when it comes to an accusation being "irrelevant and absurd." But there's more:

In issue 27 Freemasonry Today reported that the highly-conservative Anglican Synod of the diocese of Sydney, New South Wales, Australia had passed a resolution banning Freemasons from church services and from using Anglican Church facilities. Rev. Bill Winthrop, Rector of St Paul’s Church, Lithgow, refused to conduct the burial service of deceased Past Grand Master Harold Coates, and further told the the Sydney Morning Herald that the Synod motion ‘was not cast in strong enough terms’. Predictably, there has been a reaction of outrage across New South Wales, and Grand Master Tony Lauer has said, in his response, that ‘the Synod is not a theological institution and its expressed opinion as to whether or not Freemasonry is compatible with Christianity is just that – an opinion, and one formed by the Synod of only one Diocese of the Anglican Church of Australia. Freemasonry will continue to put itself forward to be judged on the basis of what it is, as opposed to what uninformed people say it is, on who its members are and on what its members do. It will continue to urge its members to help those less fortunate than themselves. It will continue to accept that men of like mind, but with widely differing religious and political beliefs and also from any racial or national background, can sit together in a lodge and agree on what is the right way for them to conduct themselves in society without compromising either their political opinions or their religious beliefs or philosophies.’
Since the ban, the Bishop of Riverina Rt Reverend Bruce Clark met with senior Masons of the region to discuss items of common interest to Freemasonry and the Anglican Church. He said that he wished to assure Freemasons that the motion passed by the Sydney Synod has no bearing outside the Sydney Diocese, stressing that each Diocese, while being a part of the World Anglican Communion and the Australian Anglican Church, retains its own independence and autonomy. ‘As a general policy in the Diocese of Riverina,’ he continued, ‘the Anglican Church would not exclude members of a masonic lodge from its worship or organisations’. He hoped ‘that members of the lodge would know that they are welcome, and not feel that they must leave the Church because of the Sydney Synod resolution’. (Freemasonry Today #29, Summer 2004)

Not surprised to see that "highly conservative" comment in regard to the Sydney Diocese. It has long been pointed out that arch-conservative or fundamentalist thinking is the typical mindset of Masonry's critics. (I notice also, Sydney is one of only 4 Dioceses in Australia that still refuse to ordain women.)

 

[wayseer]

Hey Wayseer,

I see that you are an Anglican from Australia. And, I notice from your post in this thread, that you are a member and staunch defender of the Masonic Order.

Good for you. Tell me - is this important?

Can you explain your deliberate rebellion against the clear position of your own denomination by you being a Mason?

No rebellion. What you conceive in you own narrowness as 'rebellion' is your desire to provoke and intimidate those who don't agree with you. You have made your stand and now you attempt to justify your stand by any means available.

According to the following statement, I'd say you are not only in deliberate rebellion against their position, but against God as well.

Oh. You speak for God. I note those who claim to speak for God more often are speaking for themselves.

But for the many others who read this thread I offer these observations.

The Anglican Diocese of Sydney is a law unto itself. It has boycotted the present Lambeth Conference, has developed an homophobic distain for gays and is sexist with regards women refusing to ordain them as Bishops. It's opposition to the rest of the Anglican community in Australia is legendary. It is more than a possibility that this Diocese will spit itself completely in the not too distant future. Fortunately I do not live anywhere near Sydney so what goes on there does not bear upon me except in some tangential way.

Here is a response by Rt Revd George Browning, Bishop of the Diocese of Canberra & Goulburn printed on the Anglican Communion Official website ...

“A recent resolution adopted by the Sydney Synod was based on the concept that Freemasonry and Christianity are incompatible.

The resolution was tabled by Reverend Bill Winthrop of Lithgow and is based on his own perception of what Freemasonry represents.

My only gauge of Freemasonry and of Freemasons is my observation of the quality of their lives. In my 37 years of ministry I have generally found Freemasons to be people with integrity and with a heightened sense of commitment to the community.

The Anglican Church is a community in which there is scope for office holders to hold a range of opinions on a number of issues. The debates and resolutions in our synods are indicative of the tolerance and strength of the Church. Although differences in opinion may exist, our community is bound together by a commitment to the over-riding love of God in Christ, and compassion and tolerance that Christ taught us.

Personally, I have been more distressed by incidents where the compassion of the church has been withheld on the simple grounds that family members were Freemasons. It is very difficult to understand how these incidents portray the true Christian spirit.

The resolution is not binding on folk in the Diocese of Sydney and of little relevance to those outside. Therefore this issue is essentially a matter between a rector and members of his/her congregation.'

... but I doubt that this statement will have any effect on your own warped concept of the world.

My own priest in Maryborough has no problems with FM. I am not the only member who belongs to a Lodge.

You might also note that Anglican Communion is broader than you might possibly accept - which is the reason I choose to join in their communion - not because of some narrow bigoted thinking imposed on me by others.

 

[wayseer]

However... I will take this moment to once again appreciate the irony in how religion seperates mankind... and to appreciate the wisdom of masons in keeping it out of the lodge.

Accurate observation.

 

[wayseer]

Yet, the Australian Anglican is Wayseer's Christian denomination.

You display ignorance yet again. There is no pan Australia Anglican - there are a number of Diocese which are independent of each other. There is no Archbishop of Australia.

 

[misfitforfaith]

Simple yes or no? Ok... No, Freemasonry is not occult, it is not a cult, and it does not have occult origins.

It comes to my attention that so far in this thread the masons treat anyone that questions them as complete fools when responding to their posts. I am no such plebian fool I have done my homework on the occult and that includes freemasonry so i understand the subject matter well. I have read Lady Queensbouroughs "Occult Theocracy" this one of the oldest and most extensive hard copy sources out(pre ww2) their and has the tick of approval even by the Australian League of Rights the oldest Conservative Australian think tank which is where i obtained my copy. So in case you think all my sources are trendy US libertarian style conspiracy preachers e.g Alex Jones or David Icke whom i realise like to make their money by making conspiracy trendy & anti masonic think again. For one I am not in the US and two we have very few anti masonic conspiracist in Australia and definately none that i know personally.

However the best way to make my point online is to show films especially doco type interviews where ex members no matter what their nationality can speak for themselves and their extensive experiences. Someone like Leo Zagami verfired ex P2 member is not someone you DIS lighly in his knowledge on the subject this fellow got to a far higher degree than of any you fatheaded pawns posting here. So i rather take his word for it than your petty ones frankly.

If you think you can just brush aside such affliations after such extensive factual interviewing sources, then the only fool is you and your bros. The more you fools treat me like one the nastier i will get in badmouthing your order. I am not upper middle class nor the former pupil of a GPS grammar school so therefore its no skin of my nose in my nation how many masonic and other occult enemies i make. Blue bloods have alienated me all my life so its pay back time.This isnt some passing fad for me, this is life long mission i despise your organisation and other satanic cults as every TRUE christian should you deserve to be exposed especially those of you that claim to be christians that are infiltrating churches.

A Person who actually thinks there is substance to those 'productions' has the nerve to call someone else a dim wit? I hate to say it (being a Christian myself) but Christians sure are gullible!

Yes I do have the nerve.You have no idea who your dealing with!
By the way, for any of you freemasons that claim the title of practising christians would have to be the biggest danger to christianity announced on this forum thus far in any section. Every couple low and high class, lock up you kids rock spiders are on the loose.

That should give you something to think about while watching your Mickey Mouse cartoons.

I find you just as foolish as the naive couple in the first Youtube clip I linked about Baphomet. But guess you didnt even bother to watch it!.

 

[Rev Wayne]

Someone like Leo Zagami verfired ex P2 member is not someone you DIS lighly in his knowledge on the subject

You're right, I won't DIS him lightly. But of course, the only alternative that leaves me is to DIS him heavily.

P2 is not a Masonic Lodge. In fact, it is not ANY kind of lodge, it was closed in 1976. Like practically all Italian institutions, it had been infiltrated by political and business elements. After its closing, there were those who kept its name alive, but it was operating outside of any Masonic authority. A fuller account can be found here:

MORE FOOLISHNESS REFUTED

this fellow got to a far higher degree than of any you fatheaded pawns posting here.

Zagami is an idiot. He tried to claim membership on the "Masonic Executive Committee of Monte Carlo," thinking no one would know what goes in such a faraway place, and thus would not seek to verify the information. But Ed King at Masonicinfo HAS checked the information out. He found that there is only ONE MASONIC LODGE in ALL OF MONTE CARLO!! Not only that, the one Lodge that does exist there was founded by the UGLE in 1924, and is under DIRECT CONTROL FROM LONDON. That means the "Masonic Executive Committee of Monte Carlo" has a grand total of ZERO lodges under its jurisdiction.

In other words, he's lying, in case your boasted superior intellect can't comprehend plain English well enough to understand the implications.

You'd be well-advised to get better information about him, which you can do here:

Zagami

As for his having attained higher degrees than any of us here, that's to be expected, since his membership is with the RGLE, which has a total of 95 degrees. That organization has no connection whatsoever to the Masonic Lodge under discussion in this forum. Groups not connected with the UGLE are not legitimate Freemasonry to begin with, so you may say what you wish and believe what you wish in regard to them, and we will simply fish and whistle until you are prepared to engage in any LEGITIMATE discussion of Freemasonry.

i despise your organisation and other satanic cults as every TRUE christian should you deserve to be exposed especially those of you that claim to be christians that are infiltrating churches.

I've been a Christian all my life. I've been a Mason for only four years. It would be more accurate to say I'm a Christian infiltrating the lodge.

And no, you make it clear you do not despise OUR organization, for you have yet to say the first word about it at all. You have come here talking about P2 and Baphomet. They have no connection to the Masonic Lodge we are discussing here. P2 was closed to any legitimacy in 1976. Baphomet is part of the Leo Taxil lies. Ed King even compares Zagami to Bill Schoebelen, which is pretty bizarre company.

Your claiming to despise our organization, would be like us citing the example of people who kill abortion doctors in the name of Christ, and then badmouthing the church for what they had done, and pronouncing judgment upon you for being a church member. That would be a pretty stupid thing for us to do, would it not?

You have no idea who your dealing with!

I'm pretty certain we all know who we're dealing with. You are definitely a force to be reckoned with--and so, I "reckon" I will ignore you from this point forward if you continue to have nothing to contribute to any meaningful discussion.

 

[wayseer]

It comes to my attention that so far in this thread the masons treat anyone that questions them as complete fools when responding to their posts.

No not complete fools - more ignorant. But if you persist in your ignorance then perhaps you might qualify as foolish.

I am no such plebian fool I have done my homework on the occult and that includes freemasonry so i understand the subject matter well. I have read Lady Queensbouroughs "Occult Theocracy" this one of the oldest and most extensive hard copy sources out(pre ww2) their and has the tick of approval even by the Australian League of Rights the oldest Conservative Australian think tank which is where i obtained my copy.

The Australian League of Rights is a ratbag society avoided by more sane - unless, or course, you happen to be a member thereof.

Someone like Leo Zagami verfired ex P2 member is not someone you DIS lighly in his knowledge on the subject this fellow got to a far higher degree than of any you fatheaded pawns posting here.

If that is your criterion for classification I am happy to be consider a 'pawn'.

The more you fools treat me like one the nastier i will get in badmouthing your order.

No - you'll just join all those others who feed out of the gutter. Sorry to be so brutish - but I really cannot find any sympathy for your pathetic tantrum.

This isnt some passing fad for me, this is life long mission i despise your organisation and other satanic cults as every TRUE christian should you deserve to be exposed especially those of you that claim to be christians that are infiltrating churches.

Interesting - while spouting hate and intimidation your hide behind a religion that promotes love and understanding.

You have no idea who your dealing with!

I have no illusions - there are lots of people about of a similar ilk - fortunately they are more a danger to themselves than anyone else.

But guess you didnt even bother to watch it!.

You're right - I have better things to do with my time.

 

[Jester4kicks]

It comes to my attention that so far in this thread the masons treat anyone that questions them as complete fools when responding to their posts. I am no such plebian fool I have done my homework on the occult and that includes freemasonry so i understand the subject matter well. I have read Lady Queensbouroughs "Occult Theocracy" this one of the oldest and most extensive hard copy sources out(pre ww2) their and has the tick of approval even by the Australian League of Rights the oldest Conservative Australian think tank which is where i obtained my copy. So in case you think all my sources are trendy US libertarian style conspiracy preachers e.g Alex Jones or David Icke whom i realise like to make their money by making conspiracy trendy & anti masonic think again. For one I am not in the US and two we have very few anti masonic conspiracist in Australia and definately none that i know personally.

However the best way to make my point online is to show films especially doco type interviews where ex members no matter what their nationality can speak for themselves and their extensive experiences. Someone like Leo Zagami verfired ex P2 member is not someone you DIS lighly in his knowledge on the subject this fellow got to a far higher degree than of any you fatheaded pawns posting here. So i rather take his word for it than your petty ones frankly.

If you think you can just brush aside such affliations after such extensive factual interviewing sources, then the only fool is you and your bros. The more you fools treat me like one the nastier i will get in badmouthing your order. I am not upper middle class nor the former pupil of a GPS grammar school so therefore its no skin of my nose in my nation how many masonic and other occult enemies i make. Blue bloods have alienated me all my life so its pay back time.This isnt some passing fad for me, this is life long mission i despise your organisation and other satanic cults as every TRUE christian should you deserve to be exposed especially those of you that claim to be christians that are infiltrating churches.




Yes I do have the nerve.You have no idea who your dealing with!
By the way, for any of you freemasons that claim the title of practising christians would have to be the biggest danger to christianity announced on this forum thus far in any section. Every couple low and high class, lock up you kids rock spiders are on the loose.


I find you just as foolish as the naive couple in the first Youtube clip I linked about Baphomet. But guess you didnt even bother to watch it!.

Since Wayne and Wayseer already addressed all this quite well... allow me to sum up my thoughts rather briefly.

 

[misfitforfaith]

I would also like to add in my statements to our sad southbound subterrnean friends that so many that speak out against them and have an axe to grind are either ex masons like O.F.F. or have family members past or present whom were ex freemasons even i fall into that category.
So really your rotten putrid organisation only breeds hate contempt and revenge your biggest detractors and foes are overwhelmingly exmembers thus masonic blood shown the light of salvation. I look forward to you all soon in secret occult soceities showing your true colours just like you did with Captain Morgan against opponents mafia style that way the ordinary citizen will able to label you as what we TRUE CHRISTIANS know you are already organised criminals.At least then suppose you wont be just playing with kids hotspots in dark places.

The Australian League of Rights is a ratbag society avoided by more sane - unless, or course, you happen to be a member thereof.

A member no. I mentioned them because they were and still are ultra conservatives and monarchists in the anglo vein just as you York rite UGLE types of many commonwealth nations(upper middle class GPS anglos) many of which also reside downunder in nice leafy streets.
That fact that they turned cowan (mole) and spilt the goats blood on the UGLE and its sub branches in Aus, coming from the foremost Conservative if not only Ultra conservative organisation down under propagating anti masonic literature thus sentiment only proves the conservative political positions that you love to take in commonwealth nations as regards the House of Windsor(Keith Flint comeon down) are a pointless and useless charade.
So are you AU Freemasons now arthur or martha left or right politically ah thats right both at the sametime the hegelian dialetic. Yes i am sure youd like to see me feed out of the gutter however i really care little for your curses I would not give you that satisfaction atleast eternally I am on the right path you Sirs are doomed for eternity time swings in my direction RFID chip or not.

Interesting - while spouting hate and intimidation your hide behind a religion that promotes love and understanding.

Youd know all about hiding behind something its what your good at. The only love and understanding youve brought the world are two world wars, and several revolutions and counting ah.. I mean sorry your Grand Orient (Republican,Communist arm) or bros I mean seriously who cares your all the same to me conservative or revolutionary.

 

[Rev Wayne]

I am on the right path you Sirs are doomed for eternity

You really need to be careful here:

Proverbs 16:18
"Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall."

Matthew 7:1-3
1Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged,
and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye
and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Romans 14:10,13
10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 13...therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another...

Romans 2:1
You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

James 4:11-12
11... Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it... 12... who are you to judge your neighbour?

time swings in my direction

I'm sure quite a few things have swung in your direction. The amazing thing is, how you managed to latch onto all the wrong ones.

You appear to have no purpose here but to spew irrelevant nonsense and pontificate about how much better you think you are than anyone else around you. There have been many who have come and gone here who have set themselves up as judges of humanity. They're easy to recognize, because at some point they will inevitably preface some comment with a "You, sir....."

There is nothing we can do about it, of course, if you choose to hang around for any length of time. But as long as you continue to post things which we have repeatedly pointed out to you are NOT related to Freemasonry as it is discussed here--that is, lodges considered "regular" by having legitimate derivation from the UGLE as established in 1717--you are more likely to be ignored than anything else.

Have a pleasant rest of your life, "sir," and I bid you adieu.

 

[morningstar2651]

What does RFID have to do with Freemasonry? Did I miss something?

 

[Jester4kicks]

What does RFID have to do with Freemasonry? Did I miss something?

Yeah... you must have missed the boat on this one.


No worries... it's swinging back around.

 

[izarya]

Yes I do have the nerve.You have no idea who your dealing with!

LOL!

Neither do you...

 

[Rev Wayne]

You have no idea who your dealing with!

LOL!

Neither do you...

I find it hilarious that someone who thinks Masons are satanic and mafia-connected, thinks nothing of this kind of in-your-face insolence when in dialogue with them. It's almost like he knows the claims are bogus, n'est-ce pas?

 

[wayseer]

we know you already organised criminals.

... and you will, of course, armed with the evidence you must have in your possession to support your charge, take such evidence to the Police as only an honest citizen would. Or do you claim privilege?

The rest of you post is, quite frankly, dribble.

 

[Jester4kicks]

Absolutely correct. However, please don't think that the irony of your behavior in this thread is going unappreciated because of it.