Can a Christian be a drunkard?

[ClementofA]

Three questions:

(1) Can a Christian be a drunkard:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor.6:9-11)

(2) Can a drunkard who professes Christ but confesses his sins be saved:

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:9)

(3) Can a drunkard who professes Christ but confesses his sins be saved at the same time he is drunk?

 

[mukk_in]

I'd say, yes. Some addictions are hard to kick. That's where struggling with sin, while being saved, comes into play (Romans 7:24). I struggled with alcohol abuse before being saved, and quit shortly after. Peace in Christ .

 

[Basil the Great]

It seems to me that God will judge us in our entirety. Having said that, not all addictions are equal. Alcohol addiction itself cannot be compared to habitual spousal abuse or habitual child abuse or habitual adultery, where one inflicts pain on others. Now let us be aware that becoming drunk often leads to spousal abuse and child abuse, but certainly not in all cases. This is not an easy issue to come to terms with, as some Scripture verses do warn that drunkards will not be saved. I do not believe that we know for certain the answer to this question. However, it seems to me that as long as someone is trying to break their addiction, then they have at least a measure of repentance and the possibility of salvation.

 

[W2L]

It depends on what a drunkard is. We are allowed to drink alcohol according to scripture.

 

[Dansiph]

I'd say yes, a Christian can be a drunkard. Isn't it a physical addiction as well as mental? I did think of this verse: 1 Corinthians 5:11.

I also heard a drunkard should be thrown out of the congregation but I can't remember or find the verse sorry.

 

[ewq1938]

When I was younger I hung out with some people and there was this one guy who was very weird and violent when he was drunk. The others drank and sometimes got drunk but they were funny and laid back and never mean at all while drinking. I don't have any support for this opinion but IMO that one guy was a drunkard, while the rest were lesser forms of such a concept and not exactly what the bible is addressing although I think it can be a sin to overdrink but not one to keep a Christian from being saved. Noah and Lot come to mind

 

[JIMINZ]

I'd say yes, a Christian can be a drunkard. Isn't it a physical addiction as well as mental? I did think of this verse: 1 Corinthians 5:11.

I also heard a drunkard should be thrown out of the congregation but I can't remember or find the verse sorry.

Ummmm, it's the verse you posted.

1 Co. 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

 

[Dansiph]

Ummmm, it's the verse you posted.

1 Co. 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

AH ok. I thought there might have been a similar verse. My bad

 

[JIMINZ]

AH ok. I thought there might have been a similar verse. My bad

There is, but it doesn't say anything like what I highlighted.

1 Co. 6:9,10
9) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[SkyWriting]

Three questions:

(1) Can a Christian be a drunkard:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor.6:9-11)

(2) Can a drunkard who professes Christ but confesses his sins be saved:

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:9)

(3) Can a drunkard who professes Christ but confesses his sins be saved at the same time he is drunk?

Yes. Once you put your Faith in God to save you from your sins, this includes all your continuing life as long as your faith continues. You can even be disobedient to your parents and unrepentant toward their authority over you life, and God still sees your Spirit to be white as snow. Maybe your mom doesn't like the side of town you live in. God understands.

 

[SkyWriting]

There is, but it doesn't say anything like what I highlighted.

1 Co. 6:9,10
9) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

That means "In general". You can't unfornicate yourself. God has to forgive that. Even while you remain in your third or fourth marriage.

 

[bcbsr]

Three questions:

(1) Can a Christian be a drunkard:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor.6:9-11)

(2) Can a drunkard who professes Christ but confesses his sins be saved:

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:9)

(3) Can a drunkard who professes Christ but confesses his sins be saved at the same time he is drunk?

Well the passage you yourself says, "And that is what some of you were." So none of the characteristic behaviors mentioned in 1Cor 6:9-11 continued in the Christians. And given that
"no one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God." 1John 3:9, it's not possible for a person to be born of God and continue in a sinful lifestyle such as the word "drunkard" represents. They lose the ability to do so due to the nature of regeneration.

Can a sinner who professes Christ but confesses his sins be saved? Well that's kin of the point of the gospel.

Whether a drunkard can make an honest confession while he is drunk, I don't really need to know that. Because after that if he has been born of God he'll be sober and it will be evident whether his confession was genuine.

 

[Tolworth John]

Put the question more simple.
Can a Christian sin and still be saved/a christian?

We are saved by Jesus inspite of our continued sinning.
Yes a Christian can be a murder, a fornicator, a drunkard etc etc

They are not very obedient Christians, there salvation doen't depend on there not sinning but on there trust/belief in Jesus.

Just how much effort do we put into not sinning? If our habitual sins were getting drunk etc would we class ourselves as Christian?

 

[Ligurian]

Can a Christian be a drunkard?

No.

 

[Ligurian]

Put the question more simple.
Can a Christian sin and still be saved/a christian?

We are saved by Jesus inspite of our continued sinning.
Yes a Christian can be a murder, a fornicator, a drunkard etc etc

They are not very obedient Christians, there salvation doen't depend on there not sinning but on there trust/belief in Jesus.

Just how much effort do we put into not sinning? If our habitual sins were getting drunk etc would we class ourselves as Christian?

Well then, a Christian can drink and call himself that.


But the Disciples of Galilee aren't called "Christian" so this doesn't apply to them or "those who believe on Him through their word" (John 17:20).

 

[Tolworth John]

Well then, a Christian can drink and call himself that.

Christians have always drunk. danced, enjoued fine music, art, science and education.

 

[JIMINZ]

That means "In general". You can't unfornicate yourself. God has to forgive that. Even while you remain in your third or fourth marriage.

I know it's been a while but, I didn't stipulate one way or the other, I just posted the verse to answer the specific question asked.

Thanks for the input.

 

[JIMINZ]

Three questions:

(1) Can a Christian be a drunkard:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor.6:9-11)

(2) Can a drunkard who professes Christ but confesses his sins be saved:

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:9)

(3) Can a drunkard who professes Christ but confesses his sins be saved at the same time he is drunk?

First of all, you personally need to answer the question of SIN in any Believers life before you will be able to satisfactorily answer your own questions.

If as you say a Christian does sin, then what was he saved from, and what was he Born Again of the Spirit to?

Remember, Jesus didn't say, you must be Saved, but rather, "you must be Born again," the question then is, what does the process of becoming Born Again entail?

Some simple basic questions.
1) If you are dead to the Flesh
2) If you are dead to the Law
3) If you are dead to Sin

How then does any Born Again Believer in Christ commit Sin?