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I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the power unto salvation.
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I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the power unto salvation.I converted to Catholicism because it is the only Church that takes the scriptures as the word of God.
well scripture tells us we can know we are saved but I have been told by some that no only God can know..
You believe that you were programmed for heaven while others were programmed for hell.This is not what I believe. LOL.. This is what you interpret me to believe. I belive God has chosen His people before the foundation of the world. Sin is what programs any man to Hell. I believe that all men are sinners and programed for hell but out of Gods love and Mercy He chooses to save some from this. If God did not choose and save man from this all men would go to hell. God is not obligated to save all men,
In Fact God is not obligated to save any man.. Tee hee
For some reason, you are ashamed of your beliefs.
I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the power unto salvation.Now can you be revealed truth out of the scripture by yourself? Can you believe something different than what you church believes..If not why not?
Which Church is that?The Church gave you the bible. You believe the Church, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, infallibly chose the books of the New Testament.
Why?
I also believe this scripture just not the way some men have interpeted it..I'll provide some scripture that I believe, but that you will ignore or distort because of your man made dogma:
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
I believe this also just not as interpreted by some men.
John 20
22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."
I believe this also. Just not the way it has been interpreted by some men.
Matthew 18
17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
I believe this also. In fact have witnessed this.
Matt 16
18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven;
I also believe this scripture just not the way some men have interpeted it..
An Orthodox gave me a link to their interpretation of it, but then, whoever said MEN can infallibly interpret the ScripturesI also believe this scripture just not the way some men have interpeted it..
I just looked up the quote from the book Heresies, Heresy and Orthodoxy in the History of the Church by Harold O.J. Brown. COGWriter leaves out where the author says that it seems like marcion BUT Luther was different in the distinctions.
Context is important.
God gaves us the scriptures. All the men did was to take all that was written and compile into what we now call the bible. It is the Holy Spirit in us that teaches us the truth of what is written.The Church gave you the bible. You believe the Church, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, infallibly chose the books of the New Testament.
Why?
I do not believe in interpretation of the scriptures. I believe in understanding the scriptures.. I am still learning from scripture.. Everyday I learn something quite awesome in them. God speaks to His Children through His scriptures. We do not need a middle man in between us and our Fathers word. For the Holy Spirit whom we are sealed with is our teacher not man..Why do you believe your interpretation is infallible?
What about this quoteYou are ignoring direct quotes from Luther. (I know why!)
how do you know you were not programmed to say that?
Interesting. That leads me to ask was I programmed to be left handed or was I predestined to be that wayBecause I don't read in the scriptures that men are programmed.. Just predestined.
Because I don't read in the scriptures that men are programmed.. Just predestined.
Depends alot on procreation. LOL.. Such as biology.. Remember one is born from procreation.Interesting. That leads me to ask was I programmed to be left handed or was I predestined to be that way
This thread is not the place or the time to do this. I gave you the opportunity to hear me out on this subject in another thread, but you did not bother.
My understanding, correct me if I am wrong.
All men are programmed for sin and therefore Hell according to Calvin.
God picks some lucky underserving souls to shed his grace upon.
I do not believe in interpretation of the scriptures. I believe in understanding the scriptures.. I am still learning from scripture.. Everyday I learn something quite awesome in them.
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