Calvinist Arminian dialog

[Near]

Fowler,

Google helped me discover this interaction in, 'A Calvinist Perspective on “Jesus Loves The Little Children”',

You have plagiarised it from this site. I urge you not to steal another person's idea without giving that person credit.

It is quite a brilliant interaction, but you have done the wrong thing by engaging in plagiarism.

If you are this person who wrote this on the Arminian site, 'Arminian Perspectives', you need to tell us that you are the author. Otherwise I conclude that you have plagiarised it.

Oz

Plagiarism?
He was merely reposting something.
Maybe the laws are different over there.

 

[OzSpen]

Plagiarism?
He was merely reposting something.
Maybe the laws are different over there.

Nice try, but no cigars!

This is from a USA legal site, USLegal, and it provides a USA definition of plagiarism and it is exactly the same as here in Australia:

Plagiarism Law & Legal Definition

Plagiarism is taking the writings or literary ideas of another and selling and/or publishing them as one's own writing. Brief quotes or use of cited sources do not constitute plagiarism. The original author can bring a lawsuit for appropriation of his/her work against the plagiarist and recover the profits. Although not normally a crime, a person who plagiarizes is subject to being sued for fraud or copyright infringement if prior creation can be proved. Penalties vary depending on jurisdiction, the charges brought, and are determined on a case by case basis.
The Internet has made plagiarism easier than ever before. From elementary schools to the highest levels of academia, the ease of downloading and copying "untraceable" online information has led to an epidemic of digital plagiarism. Plagiarism detection software now exists and is used in schools to monitor student's work. If you adopt someone else's language, provide quotation marks and a reference to the source, either in the text or in a footnote, as prescribed by such publications as Format, The MLA Style Sheet, or another manual of style. Students who commit plagiarism may be subject to grade or disciplinary penalties, which vary by institution.
Intentional or unintentional use of another's words or ideas without acknowledging this use constitutes plagiarism: There are four common forms of plagiarism:

• The duplication of an author's words without quotation marks and accurate references or footnotes.
• The duplication of author's words or phrases with footnotes or accurate references, but without quotation marks.
• The use of an author's ideas in paraphrase without accurate references or footnotes.
• Submitting a paper in which exact words are merely rearranged even though footnoted.

Therefore, this person engaged in plagiarism, stealing another person's ideas, with the copying to CF.

Oz

 

[Near]

Nice try, but no cigars!

This is from a USA legal site, USLegal, and it provides a USA definition of plagiarism and it is exactly the same as here in Australia:

Therefore, this person engaged in plagiarism, stealing another person's ideas, with the copying to CF.

Oz

Ah, he posted it, but he didn't "publish" it as his own work.

 

[OzSpen]

Ah, he posted it, but he didn't "publish" it as his own work.

Fowler eRacie most definitely did publish as his own work, under his name, online at Christian Forums.

As that link to the legals regarding plagiarism in the USA demonstrated, it is much easier to do online. But the person who posted here on CF without giving credit and posting under his own name, most definitely published online.

What he did was plagiarism.

Oz

 

[Near]

Fowler eRacie most definitely did publish as his own work, under his name, online at Christian Forums.

As that link to the legals regarding plagiarism in the USA demonstrated, it is much easier to do online. But the person who posted here on CF without giving credit and posting under his own name, most definitely published online.

What he did was plagiarism.

Oz

Plagiarism: What is it, exactly? | LegalZoom

Although plagiarism is not a criminal or civil offense, plagiarism is illegal if it infringes an author's intellectual property rights, including copyright or trademark. For example, the owner of a copyright can sue a plagiarizer in federal court for copyright violation. The plagiarist in turn may have to pay the copyright owner of the plagiarized works the amount he or she actually lost because of the infringement, in addition to paying attorney's fees.

Source provided above

The Original was free property, not copyrighted or trademarked.

 

[OzSpen]

Plagiarism: What is it, exactly? | LegalZoom

Source provided above

The Original was free property, not copyrighted or trademarked.

Why are you fudging on what BetaChristian did in plagiarising material that he published on CF?

 

[Near]

Why are you fudging on what BetaChristian did in plagiarising material that he published on CF?

Nvm it's not important.

Btw, your thoughts on the verse below

 

[OzSpen]

Nvm it's not important.

Btw, your thoughts on the verse below

So is plagiarism - stealing somebody else's ideas - not an important violation for you?

What are your issues you have with the KJV verse you quoted from 1 John 3:9? What are the issues for you so that I understand what kinds of questions you are asking?

Here is a list of translations from the Bible Hub:

New International Version
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

New Living Translation
Those who have been born into God's family do not make a practice of sinning, because God's life is in them. So they can't keep on sinning, because they are children of God.

English Standard Version
No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.

New American Standard Bible
No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

King James Bible
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Everyone who has been born of God does not sin, because His seed remains in him; he is not able to sin, because he has been born of God.

International Standard Version
No one who has been born from God practices sin, because God's seed abides in him. Indeed, he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born from God.

NET Bible
Everyone who has been fathered by God does not practice sin, because God's seed resides in him, and thus he is not able to sin, because he has been fathered by God.

 

[OzSpen]

Plagiarism: What is it, exactly? | LegalZoom
Source provided above
The Original was free property, not copyrighted or trademarked.

That's not the issue. When you use somebody else's material and make it look like your own (when it is not), you are stealing their ideas and it's called plagiarism.

Is God's teaching against stealing (Ex 20:15; Matt 19:18; Rom 13:9; Eph 4:28) not an important commandment for you to obey?

Oz