Calvinism!

[Daniels]

Calvinism -- This particular thought was originated by John Calvin and his followers. This theory states that individuals are predestined to be in or out of the Church without any personal choice in the matter.

 

[Zacharias]

Calvinism -- This particular thought was originated by John Calvin and his followers. This theory states that individuals are predestined to be in or out of the Church without any personal choice in the matter.

John Calvin got his views from the Apostle Paul and Augustine's commentary on the Apostle Paul. We call it Calvinism after John Calvin. However, it is completely Biblical and has been around longer than John Calvin.

 

[Imblessed]

Calvinism -- This particular thought was originated by John Calvin and his followers. This theory states that individuals are predestined to be in or out of the Church without any personal choice in the matter.

definitely not "originated" by Calvin. Calvin wrote quite a bit about election and predestination, but it wasn't until a long while after his death that the term "calvinism" became popular.

and it's not a 'theory that individuals are predestined to be in or out of the church without any personal choice'---that's probably about the most simplistic 'definition' I've ever come across, and totally misrepresents what Calvinism is about.

I'm not sure why I bothered even commenting, now that I have......

 

[HamletsChoice]

Calvinism -- This particular thought was originated by John Calvin and his followers. This theory states that individuals are predestined to be in or out of the Church without any personal choice in the matter.

Calvinism as it is called originated with Jesus Christ:

JOH 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him...

JOH 6:37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me...

 

[cygnusx1]

he's back!

 

[bradfordl]

Calvinism!

So what's the deal, friend? The gates are down now, so after more than 5000 posts you decide to saunter over to the reformed side of town and stir up strife? You will be soundly proven to be in error and in contradiction to scripture here, but if common experience is any indication, it will have little effect on you. Most arminians and other like self-glory mongers are impervious to scripture, their love of their own false self-importance being too valuable to them to let a little thing like the truth of scripture to rattle it. Keep writing your own scripture and sanctifying it with a "Thus saith the Lord", and I suppose you can convince yourself that whatever you want to believe is acceptable.... but that doesn't mean it is biblical.

 

[arunma]

Actually I'm a bit confused by this. Daniels often posts small pieces of text (which appear to be copied and pasted from elsewhere), but does not offer his own comments either in the OP or elsewhere. Many of his threads can be found in GA, and it appears that he now makes these posts here as well. I'm a bit confused as to why he does this.

 

[Daniels]

Thanks, sharing all your views.

 

[StephanStrategy]

Wouldn't "popularized" by John Calvin be more correct?

 

[heymikey80]

Calvinism -- This particular thought

What? Naming it "calvinism"? Well no.

was originated by John Calvin and his followers. This theory states that individuals are predestined

originated? Well no. The Apostle Paul had it first (Ep 1:4). I'm sure you can find out more in the Council of Orange and the Council of Chalcedon, as well as Augustine.

to be in or out of the Church

Church? Well no. Actually it's election if you want the exact point.

without any personal choice in the matter.

No choice? Well no. It's actually that the person's choice is from His regenerate heart, so it occurs through the regeneration of the Holy Spirit. You know: the Apostle John's view (Jn 3:3)

 

[Monergism]

Calvinism is...

"evangelism in its pure and only stable expression, and when we say evangelism, we say sin and salvation." - B. B. Warfield

"That exalted system of Pauline truth." - John A. Broadus

"The old truth that Calvin preached, that Augustine preached, that Paul preached." - C. H. Spurgeon

"the gospel, and nothing else." - C. H. Spurgeon

 

[HamletsChoice]

Actually I'm a bit confused by this. Daniels often posts small pieces of text (which appear to be copied and pasted from elsewhere), but does not offer his own comments either in the OP or elsewhere. Many of his threads can be found in GA, and it appears that he now makes these posts here as well. I'm a bit confused as to why he does this.

It's called drive-by postings...he can't adequately defend his beliefs one on one so he resorts to drive-by "shootings." It's guerilla arminianism, shallow and cowardice as it is.

 

[DeaconDean]

Did I see someone say "drive-by" posting? Does this sound like him:

Just passing thorugh

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Charlamagne1]

Before you praise Calvin too much you should learn what he did to Michael Servetus and how he ran the city of Geneva.



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[Beoga]

Before you praise Calvin too much you should learn what he did to Michael Servetus and how he ran the city of Geneva.

What, like burn Servetus? You act like that is a bad thing. Its a standard we should implement today in our churches.

Seriously, do a little bit more research. Calvin had no control over whether or not Servetus burned. He pleaded with Servetus to recant of his error. He also did not want Servetus burned, but Calvin was not in charge.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I moved this from the main forum so the discussion could continue without breaking rules

 

[GrinningDwarf]

I moved this from the main forum so the discussion could continue without breaking rules

Thank you!

 

[Rick Otto]

Paul was making a career out of executing Christians when Jesus slammed him to the ground & blinded him.
Maybe we should everybody tear all of Pauls writings out of the canon!

Oh yeah! Come to think of it Psalms should be burnt too, after considering his crimes.