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I'm not into meism like you two. It's all
about Jesus, not me nor men.
If someone believes they are saved from
a work they do their salvation is defective.
Eve got into trouble when she tried a glory
grab, the arminian make a glory grab of glory
that all belongs to the Lord Jesus.
If the atheists can do it so can you
The Lord ~could~ have made us mindless robotsHere is your quote from post #189 - "Man is not free to choose anything but to sin"
Now you are backtracking and saying atheists can choose to stop from lying and committing adultery. Yet you say you can't.
If you are going to keep on this way, you will need a bigger shovel to dig that hole you're in.
It's never been an issue of youThis is incorrect also.
We are reconciled back to God through His death on the cross, when we show faith in Him as Lord for the forgiveness of sins.
That's why I do not practice or believe in Calvinism.It's never been an issue of you
pounding on heaven's door being refused admittance.
Everybody who sincerely repents
and genuinely believes SHALL be
saved.
The thing being that only the Elect
sincerely repent and genuinely believe !
Your christ loves every individual person in the worldSo, can you choose to do anything but sin? You're a little wishy washy in your beliefs.
"You're a misinformed nuthead!"If I asked you, "am I elect"? How would you respond to that question.
That's why I do not practice or believe in Calvinism.
How would you know who is "Elect", who "sincerely" repents and who "genuinely" believes?
Seems like you are questioning others faith or encouraging them to avoid faith all together by using words like "Elect", "sincerely", and 'genuine".
What the sentence shows is that the Calvinist believe only some or "elect". That some repentance is not sincere and that some belief is not genuine.
So for a new believer, what does that make them think of God's covenant with them? If they even think God wants them?
That's why I do not practice or believe in Calvinism.
How would you know who is "Elect", who "sincerely" repents and who "genuinely" believes?
Seems like you are questioning others faith or encouraging them to avoid faith all together by using words like "Elect", "sincerely", and 'genuine".
What the sentence shows is that the Calvinist believe only some or "elect". That some repentance is not sincere and that some belief is not genuine.
So for a new believer, what does that make them think of God's covenant with them? If they even think God wants them?
If you do not need to know the state of my faith, because Jesus does.I do not have to know the state of your faith, and the only person who does, already does, and has known since before He made anything.
That's the point. Christ knows His own and has always known, before your birth, before the Fall, before Creation itself.
Faith is a gift from God that comes from having a heart that has been made flesh. Prior to salvation, Calvinist thinking holds that the spiritually dead is a literal, if unseen form of death, where we are all separated from God. Of their own power, the dad may only stay dead. We believe that God makes the first step by breathing life into the dead, and then we may have faith.
But for the most part, Arminians do not doubt people's salvation unless it is so obvious that there is a real reason to doubt.I don't think either camp can truly know who truly saved. That's for God and God alone.
However, I think we can see the fruits of the spirit in people's lives that are indicative of conversion, new life, redemption, sanctification...and there are people on both sides of this issue who will rejoice in Heaven with each other in the presence of the King...and those on either side whom the Gospel of Jesus Christ has condemned.
Being among the Elect is the result of havingThat's why I do not practice or believe in Calvinism.
How would you know who is "Elect", who "sincerely" repents and who "genuinely" believes?
Seems like you are questioning others faith or encouraging them to avoid faith all together by using words like "Elect", "sincerely", and 'genuine".
What the sentence shows is that the Calvinist believe only some or "elect". That some repentance is not sincere and that some belief is not genuine.
So for a new believer, what does that make them think of God's covenant with them? If they even think God wants them?
Can you please answer my question."You're a misinformed nuthead!"
God has two wills (from our perspective): His
revealed will, and His secret will.
The Lord has set forth His revealed will in the Bible.
God's secret will He has not chosen to share with
us.
Predestination and Election are part of His revealed
will. Unless you suppose that the Most High has
deigned to mislead us, we can trust in that revelation.
Who -in every case- is among the Elect, God does
not inform us. But, the mechanism of Election
He makes clear in His Word. You supposing that the
Lord has provided us with half-truths, red herrings,
and misleading omissions is blasphemous!
If you do not need to know the state of my faith, because Jesus does.
Then why do yo9u use the words "elect' , 'genuine' and 'sincerely'? Doesn't sound like you think that it's just between the person and God, because your already adding disqualifiers to eliminate some. But then you say 'it is not you that knows, but God.'
Calvinists talk out of both sides. If God draws a person than why would they need to worry or even think about if they are or not 'elect' if they are or are not 'sincere' or 'genuine'? Because it all happened to them. There was no choice, and they did nothing.
So why would a Calvinist ever doubt any of these things?
Can you please answer my question.
If I asked you, "am I elect"? How would you respond to that question.
"I'm not God!"Can you please answer my question.
If I asked you, "am I elect"? How would you respond to that question.
You seem to want a notarized letter toAre you one of the elect?
How do you know?
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