“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” 1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV 1900)
I believe in the a Orthodox understanding of Ancestral Sin. That we have received Adam’s sinful nature but not the guilt of his sin. Each man will be judged according to his deeds.
All are spiritually blind and can only worship idols they assign Jesus' name to.
Only those whom God gives a new heart to can see the true Christ.
“Whom He foreknew”, not “what He foreknew ppl would do”. Foreknew in the Greek is a verb, meaning God did something when He foreknew them, i.e. elected them.
Great post my Brother.
I believe in the a Orthodox understanding of Ancestral Sin. That we have received Adam’s sinful nature but not the guilt of his sin. Each man will be judged according to his deeds.
Also, ask yourself, brother, “How can sin enter the world through one man (Adam) according to Romans 5:12 if it was Eve who first sinned?”
I imagine a person can justify axe murdering by isolating certain verses at the expense of other verses that condemn murder. But that would not be reading the Bible in harmony. Romans 8:28-30 is not an exhaustive truth claim that ALL who are predestined will be glorified in the end. The passage makes no such claim. In fact, I highlighted the word “might” in the passage you quoted to me to show you that such a thing is not a 100% proof claim that those who are predestined will always be glorified.
In addition: You have to take into account Matthew 13:41-42.
In this passage it says that the Son of Man (JESUS) will send forth His angels and they will gather out of HIS KINGDOM all things that offend (i.e. the word “offend” here is in reference to those who “offend” or make children to sin as mentioned by Jesus elsewhere) and those who work iniquity or lawlessness (sin) and they will be cast into the furnace of fire (i.e. the Lake of Fire).
In other words, a believer can be in the Kingdom and even be saved at one point in time, but they can later be cast out of Christ's kingdom on account of their justifying sin or a belief that makes room for a person to justify sin on some level. How scary that day of judgment will be for those who did not heed the words of Christ. For Acts of the Apostles 3:23 says that if any soul who does not hear that prophet (i.e. Jesus), they shall be destroyed. This even includes me, as well. For I am not above God's Word anymore than you are.
So then Jesus did not need to die on the cross and raise from the dead. God could just kill those souls in whom He knows will be faithful when they are babies. This is why it is so essential that Jesus came. He is the Savior of the whole world, including babies. For if Jesus did not die for mankind, we would all be doomed. Granted, I don't think that was not going to happen, but the point here is that Jesus saves, and not ourselves alone.
This is the condition we are born into.According to your theology. I will keep saying this over and over.
If you could understand what I believe you would be a Calvinist too.Yep, and you take this as a defense of a Calvinistic tactic of speaking in mysteries (that helps nobody), when I can simply figure out what you believe by a deep investigation on my own of what you believe.
It's been said that Calvin and Luther never said anything that Augustine hadn't already. I don't think it's really shocking that when we look at the giant theologians of Christianity we find that virtually every single one of them held to a a strong view of God's providence.If you could understand what I believe you would be a Calvinist too.
This is the condition we are born into.
“The wrong things the sinful self does are clear: being sexually unfaithful, not being pure, taking part in sexual sins, worshiping gods, doing witchcraft, hating, making trouble, being jealous, being angry, being selfish, making people angry with each other, causing divisions among people, feeling envy, being drunk, having wild and wasteful parties, and doing other things like these. I warn you now as I warned you before: Those who do these things will not inherit God’s kingdom.” Galatians 5:19–21 (EXPNT)
This is our condition after being born again.
“But the Spirit produces the fruit of love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. There is no law that says these things are wrong. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified their own sinful selves. They have given up their old selfish feelings and the evil things they wanted to do. We get our new life from the Spirit, so we should follow the Spirit.” Galatians 5:22–25 (EXPNT)
You need to prove you can be saved before being born again from the above.
""We may rest assured that God would never have suffered any infants to be slain except those who were already damned and predestined for eternal death." - John Calvin, Harmony of the Law, Vol 2, "Judicial Supplements", Comments on Deut ch 13.
The stain is the nature not the guilt. What sin can an unborn fetus possibly commit against God?
There's a standard set of doctrine most Calvinists rally around but it goes much deeper than what you see on the surface.
Taking 2 Pet .3:9 out of context does not prove your false idea.
God does not cast sinners choices into hell, the sinner is cast into hell without mercy.Your statements are defective biblically.
Heb10.26-31.
I used to attack "Calvinist" who held those views but they didn't have a firm understanding. They were mostly eternally secure Arminians which doesn't add up.
Interesting question! The sinful nature inherited through the male gender? How do you understand it?
Acts17:30 -31does not agree with you.I'm sorry, but that isn't true. God does not force us to follow Him. He gives us a choice. Follow Him or not.
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