Calling yourself a Prophet?

devin553344 · Dec 12, 2016

The Spirit of Prophecy is a Gift from God. So is it right to call yourself a prophet? Or should you call God the Prophet. I mean that I have no inborn ability to see the future. No time machine to do it for me. Then can I call myself prophet or is it false advertising?

South Bound · Dec 12, 2016

devin553344 said:
The Spirit of Prophecy is a Gift from God. So is it right to call yourself a prophet? Or should you call God the Prophet. I mean that I have no inborn ability to see the future. No time machine to do it for me. Then can I call myself prophet or is it false advertising?

No. The gift of predictive prophecy has ended.

Funny that people who say they're prophets never say they'll accept the Biblical penalty if they prophesy falsely.

S.O.J.I.A. · Dec 12, 2016

during the time when this gift was being given yeah you could.

OcifferPls · Dec 12, 2016

devin553344 said:
The Spirit of Prophecy is a Gift from God. So is it right to call yourself a prophet? Or should you call God the Prophet. I mean that I have no inborn ability to see the future. No time machine to do it for me. Then can I call myself prophet or is it false advertising?

That isn't how it works, or what it's about. Christianity is the prophetic faith, so a prophet should be following the gospel, which says both "it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you" and "sit down in the lowest place."

South Bound said:
No. The gift of predictive prophecy has ended.

It would be very unfortunate if we are no longer saved by being united to the Word. Thankfully I have reason to believe otherwise.

Funny that people who say they're prophets never say they'll accept the Biblical penalty if they prophesy falsely.

That only works in the context of a society which enforces those standards and penalties. But, outside of that context, freedom of speech can and does "humble" presumptuous preachers, and, in my opinion, it works in accord with the "spirit" of the law.

devin553344 · Dec 12, 2016

So the concession is God doesn't give out that spiritual gift anymore. Why is that? Does anyone know? And then did he stop giving out all the gifts or just that one? Thanks for your replies.

LastSeven · Dec 12, 2016

Not sure why you guys are saying the gift of prophecy has ended.

Acts 2:17-18
17 “‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.

Hebrews 1:2 tells us that the last days have already begun.

but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

CodyFaith · Dec 12, 2016

Not only does the gift of prophecy still exist, but we're commanded to desire it above all other gifts of the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 14:1
Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.

Aswell...

1 Corinthians 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

To say prophecy is rid of means that scripture is basically nullified.

But to answer your question, yes, if you have the gift of prophecy you are indeed a prophet. The above verse answers that "secondly prophets".

Note: Just because you yourself don't see prophecy come to be fulfilled with your own eyes, does not mean it doesn't exist.

South Bound · Dec 12, 2016

OcifferPls said:
It would be very unfortunate if we are no longer saved by being united to the Word. Thankfully I have reason to believe otherwise.

Doesn't matter what you believe. It matters what the Word of God says.

South Bound · Dec 12, 2016

CodyFaith said:
Not only does the gift of prophecy still exist, but we're commanded to desire it above all other gifts of the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 14:1
Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.

Aswell...

1 Corinthians 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

To say prophecy is rid of means that scripture is basically nullified.

No it doesn't mean the scripture is nullified. It means that you didn't bother to read the whole thing.

The Bible describes two kinds of prophecy: prophecy which proclaims the Word of God (ie "foretelling") and predictive prophecy that predicts or warns of a future event (ie "forthtelling").

The verse you cited refers to the first one not the second.

The gift of predictive prophecy no longer exists but the gift of proclaiming prophecy does.

CodyFaith · Dec 12, 2016

South Bound said:
No it doesn't mean the scripture is nullified. It means that you didn't bother to read the whole thing.

The Bible describes two kinds of prophecy: prophecy which proclaims the Word of God (ie "foretelling") and predictive prophecy that predicts or warns of a future event (ie "forthtelling").

The verse you cited refers to the first one not the second.

The gift of predictive prophecy no longer exists but the gift of proclaiming prophecy does.

No need to be so sharp tongued.

However, I'll ask you to state your source. I know for a fact you're not right, regardless I'd still like to know where you're getting that from.

OcifferPls · Dec 12, 2016

South Bound said:
No it doesn't mean the scripture is nullified. It means that you didn't bother to read the whole thing.

The Bible describes two kinds of prophecy: prophecy which proclaims the Word of God (ie "foretelling") and predictive prophecy that predicts or warns of a future event (ie "forthtelling").

The verse you cited refers to the first one not the second.

I don't see this distinction in scripture. What I do see is prophecy in the OT, and fulfillment in the NT. There's a reason for this, and unless creation has been "renewed," I know of no reason that the body of Christ would not still operate in the same manner.

The gift of predictive prophecy no longer exists but the gift of proclaiming prophecy does.

Where are you getting this?

timewerx · Dec 12, 2016

South Bound said:
The gift of predictive prophecy no longer exists but the gift of proclaiming prophecy does.

I'm sorry but that is wrong. Predictive Prophecy still exists:

John 16:13

But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

devin553344 · Dec 12, 2016

LastSeven said:
Not sure why you guys are saying the gift of prophecy has ended.

Acts 2:17-18
17 “‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.

Hebrews 1:2 tells us that the last days have already begun.

but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

Thank you, I can't deny the scripture. I was a little confused perhaps. That really clarifies things. So then is Jesus the Prophet?

Dave-W · Dec 12, 2016

devin553344 said:
The Spirit of Prophecy is a Gift from God. So is it right to call yourself a prophet? Or should you call God the Prophet. I mean that I have no inborn ability to see the future. No time machine to do it for me. Then can I call myself prophet or is it false advertising?

There is a gift of prophecy - that all can have. (see 1 Cor 12) and there is also an office of the Prophet - one of the 5 main ministries of Eph 4. They are not the same thing at all.

OcifferPls · Dec 12, 2016

devin553344 said:
Thank you, I can't deny the scripture. I was a little confused perhaps. That really clarifies things. So then is Jesus the Prophet?

In Acts, Peter and Stephen make reference to "the prophet" from Deuteronomy when speaking of Jesus. The gospel of John refers to the Word. I think it's worth noting that in the Septuagint, the same word "logos" was used to refer to the prophetic word of God.

devin553344 · Dec 12, 2016

DaveW-Ohev said:
There is a gift of prophecy - that all can have. (see 1 Cor 12) and there is also an office of the Prophet - one of the 5 main ministries of Eph 4. They are not the same thing at all.

That's worthy of Note it appears to this section? Ephesians:
{4:11} And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

Does it give mention just before that that he descended into the lake of fire? In the heart of the earth where the lava is? Where the false prophet is cast in revelation?

Dave-W · Dec 12, 2016

devin553344 said:
Does it give mention just before that that he descended into the lake of fire? In the heart of the earth where the lava is? Where the false prophet is cast in revelation?

That is a serious stretch.

9 (Now this expression, “He ascended,” what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth?

no mention of any "lake of fire" or lava ....

10 He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things.) 11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;

Still no lake or fire or lava. These gifts to the church are men matured and equipped to raise others up and equip them also.

~Anastasia~ · Dec 12, 2016

I would like t remind everyone to PLEASE READ THE STATEMENT OF PURPOSE FOR TRADITIONAL THEOLOGY. A number of posts are not in the spirit of this forum, which is respectful discussion, and also presenting your own beliefs without getting caught up on whether someone else is right or wrong.

~Anastasia~ · Dec 12, 2016

And as for the answer I would give, we do believe that God continues to act in the world today, and some have shown the gift of clear sight.

But why would you want to CALL YOURSELF a prophet? Examine carefully the reasons for wanting to do so, and whether they will increase humility or tempt you to pride?

We have seen clear sight to manifest in those who have been purified, generally through years of seeking God and repentance, and who are very humble. They do not tend to lightly let others know what they see, and certainly don't seek titles because of it. I would say that is the wisest path.

dqhall · Dec 13, 2016

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;

If I give a testimony, I should be true. It should be knowledge or prophesy or a combination of both.

Matthew 10:18 Yes, and you will be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony to them and to the nations. 19But when they deliver you up, don't be anxious how or what you will say, for it will be given you in that hour what you will say. 20For it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.

Jesus promised his followers the Holy Spirit would defend them. When the Holy Spirit gives words for a believer to say or write, it is the gift of prophesy.

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