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Well it's hard to ignore that Paul calls him young. That is scripture. Also if the Holy Spirit is leading then who cares, It isn't about the pastor, It's about the Word of God.
Its about both. The pastor and the Word of God. There is a list of qualifications for pastors. Its a very serious thing. To lead the sheep astray is worth being drowned in the ocean. Im pretty mature in Christ so I know scripture off the top of my head but I can reference you the points im making : )
 
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I'm not God so I cant guage how you would fit. 30 sounds very young to be pastoring. But Im not the one to say. For you I would develop christlike qualities in full, study pastoring and be very particualr in prayer about it. Ask God for oppurtinites to pastor. Who to connect with-what church etc. God will raise you up naturally you wont have to push or anything to pastor it will just happen you will fall into it. But, as experience I was harmed greatly by a pastor and it was due to lack of aggape love and humility. Pride is very dangerous to a pastor.

I'm sorry about what happened to you. And I agree. Pride is the biggest trap for a Pastor of any age.
 
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Its about both. The pastor and the Word of God. There is a list of qualifications for pastors. Its a very serious thing. To lead the sheep astray is worth being drowned in the ocean. Im pretty mature in Christ so I know scripture off the top of my head but I can reference you the points im making : )
Well I am a pastor of 12 years. I do not claim any authority at all, I am a foot washer and a servant to the church. I am just honored to serve.
 
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To be honest, If you are being called, You will not be able to keep quiet about Jesus. It will burn in you and you will have to share it with everyone around. Like sharing in Walmart and gas stations and everywhere ya go
That is how was for me :]
Fire in Southern Scotty's bones! Fire in Southern Scotty's bones! Hee hee!
 
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What church do you pastor?
A very small non denominational church in Ar.
I have been a jail and prison chaplain and also a nursing home pastor but now I pastor a small church that has started last year.
We are a bible preaching primitive church. :]
 
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Ask Him.. well two things pop in to mind. One is.. just before Church one night I had asked Him.. I know you called me.. but can you please confirm it. I told Him... you said by the mouth of two or three. I knew God will always confirm it. We had been going to that church for .. like 7 years already. So that same night lol..wow 3 people came up to me and said.. you should be a preacher.. you should be in the ministry.. on and on.

See before that and then after that night no one had EVER said those words to me. The 2nd thing that came to mind is a old song.. Your desire is the confirmation The destination is there God wouldn't put it in your spirit if it wasn't going nowhere So, set your sights on the promises and don't you be scared
'Cause you desire is the confirmation The destination is there...ALL not some ALL good things come from God.

I wonder sometimes about blind faith. Well...NOT ABOUT ME.. but to help your faith. I was going to go to this School in OK. I lived in Washington State at the time. I had this thought to go see a very old friend and say good by. Well as I did she just happen to know 2 others going the same way. Saved 1/2 my money right there. I was going blind.. I knew NO ONE in OK. Had no place to stay..nothing was set up. Well the driver ..she said she had a friend that went to Oral Roberts UNIV but she had no idea where the School was.

At the SAME TIME we were driving and talking about this the car behind us.. the driver keeps pointing up. So we pull over to this INFO stand and the other car right behind us. He walks up and asks "didnt you see me pointing up? I answer yes. He says "the lord told me you dont know how to get to ORAL ROBERTS UNIV and I am to show you the way.

That was exactly as it happened....oh.. so I got to stay with one of her friends. I go to look for a job.. got a full time job that day.. at ngiht. So I could go to School during the day.

I could keep going.. I will add one more NOT to puff me up.. PLEASE see HIM in all this. Our Church use to go to other Churches to sing.. and then we would pray for the people. One Sunday afternoon I went for a walk. I told the lord.. I know you called me but I dont know to what (all of this before the other). Well after we sang that night I notice that one of the Choir members was not praying for but was being prayed for. I knew it was God..I dont know just knew. So I thought if I go over there maybe he will pray for me.

So I go other there.. and he did.. he put his hands on me and said "my son I have called you but you dont know to what.. but I will open all the doors.. you have great faith....on and on". This was just before going to OK.

Sorry I am no writer. I am no one.. I feel I sin more then most. God is your FATHER.. Jesus.. your friend.. your brother.... you savior your GOD! No matter what it looks like sounds like feels like. NO matter what MAN says.. TRUST IN have FAITH IN HIM! If HE SAID IT.. HE WILL DO IT! He can not lie.

Know this HE CAN NEVER LIE! That WORD is HIS WORDS! All we have to do is be like a child and believe. We dont start a ministry HE does. As I look back.. all I can see is .. I was blind.. I mean.. I was not praying 24/7 about this.. just prayed and never gave it another thought. Talk to Him.. and give HIm the time to speak.. LISTEN! Read that word.. and BELIEVE. NONE of it is DEAD or has stopped working.. as in GIFTS..or asking for the sweet sweet Holy Spirit and the Father will give it to those that ask.

I just lol read and believe. MAN tells me things.. my mind tells me things.. but I answer back with.. NO.. GOD SAID! I stand on that. And.. the TINY few things I posted here.. is what happened when I just simply believed. IF YOU SIN.. STOP IT! Repent.. If He called.. HE WILL OPEN ALL THE DOORS! He loves you SO MUCH! As He said.. how can one go unless they are sent.. and YOU ARE SENT
 
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Ask Him.. well two things pop in to mind. One is.. just before Church one night I had asked Him.. I know you called me.. but can you please confirm it. I told Him... you said by the mouth of two or three. I knew God will always confirm it. We had been going to that church for .. like 7 years already. So that same night lol..wow 3 people came up to me and said.. you should be a preacher.. you should be in the ministry.. on and on.

See before that and then after that night no one had EVER said those words to me. The 2nd thing that came to mind is a old song.. Your desire is the confirmation The destination is there God wouldn't put it in your spirit if it wasn't going nowhere So, set your sights on the promises and don't you be scared
'Cause you desire is the confirmation The destination is there...ALL not some ALL good things come from God.

I wonder sometimes about blind faith. Well...NOT ABOUT ME.. but to help your faith. I was going to go to this School in OK. I lived in Washington State at the time. I had this thought to go see a very old friend and say good by. Well as I did she just happen to know 2 others going the same way. Saved 1/2 my money right there. I was going blind.. I knew NO ONE in OK. Had no place to stay..nothing was set up. Well the driver ..she said she had a friend that went to Oral Roberts UNIV but she had no idea where the School was.

At the SAME TIME we were driving and talking about this the car behind us.. the driver keeps pointing up. So we pull over to this INFO stand and the other car right behind us. He walks up and asks "didnt you see me pointing up? I answer yes. He says "the lord told me you dont know how to get to ORAL ROBERTS UNIV and I am to show you the way.

That was exactly as it happened....oh.. so I got to stay with one of her friends. I go to look for a job.. got a full time job that day.. at ngiht. So I could go to School during the day.

I could keep going.. I will add one more NOT to puff me up.. PLEASE see HIM in all this. Our Church use to go to other Churches to sing.. and then we would pray for the people. One Sunday afternoon I went for a walk. I told the lord.. I know you called me but I dont know to what (all of this before the other). Well after we sang that night I notice that one of the Choir members was not praying for but was being prayed for. I knew it was God..I dont know just knew. So I thought if I go over there maybe he will pray for me.

So I go other there.. and he did.. he put his hands on me and said "my son I have called you but you dont know to what.. but I will open all the doors.. you have great faith....on and on". This was just before going to OK.

Sorry I am no writer. I am no one.. I feel I sin more then most. God is your FATHER.. Jesus.. your friend.. your brother.... you savior your GOD! No matter what it looks like sounds like feels like. NO matter what MAN says.. TRUST IN have FAITH IN HIM! If HE SAID IT.. HE WILL DO IT! He can not lie.

Know this HE CAN NEVER LIE! That WORD is HIS WORDS! All we have to do is be like a child and believe. We dont start a ministry HE does. As I look back.. all I can see is .. I was blind.. I mean.. I was not praying 24/7 about this.. just prayed and never gave it another thought. Talk to Him.. and give HIm the time to speak.. LISTEN! Read that word.. and BELIEVE. NONE of it is DEAD or has stopped working.. as in GIFTS..or asking for the sweet sweet Holy Spirit and the Father will give it to those that ask.

I just lol read and believe. MAN tells me things.. my mind tells me things.. but I answer back with.. NO.. GOD SAID! I stand on that. And.. the TINY few things I posted here.. is what happened when I just simply believed. IF YOU SIN.. STOP IT! Repent.. If He called.. HE WILL OPEN ALL THE DOORS! He loves you SO MUCH! As He said.. how can one go unless they are sent.. and YOU ARE SENT
This is awesome advice. I like what was said- your Desire is your confirmation, becuase thats the same with gifts. Whatver your heart delights in and what ever your good at is your gift.
 
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If you feel ready and your church will give you a ministry pass, You can often preach at nursing homes and it is awesome. These little people will love you to death, Just be ready for anything in a nursing home Brother trust me.
I have been preaching and had little old ladies stand up and start singing at the top of there voice and start dancing and I have had some get into fights in their wheelchairs because they were trying to crowd in around to hear me. That is when I bought a sound system lol
 
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A couple times in my life, especially when my fellowship with God wasn't broken, I have sort of "felt" like I was being moved to become a pastor. I've been told to do so one must be "called" and yet I've never had a clear definition of just what that means. I certainly feel in my heart and with my knowledge of the Word that I could do it.
I think some people become pastors because they have the desire to serve the Lord in that capacity. I think others become pastors because it's a position of prestige. The first group is a blessing. The second can cause untold damage to a church.
 
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A couple times in my life, especially when my fellowship with God wasn't broken, I have sort of "felt" like I was being moved to become a pastor. I've been told to do so one must be "called" and yet I've never had a clear definition of just what that means. I certainly feel in my heart and with my knowledge of the Word that I could do it.

God's call has both an internal and external component. Internally, do you have a desire to do this work? Are you gifted to do this work? Externally, do God's people affirm your calling? Is there a church that wants you to be their pastor?

Some people feel the internal call, but nobody wants them to be their pastor. If it's God's call, both elements will line up.
 
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I think some people become pastors because they have the desire to serve the Lord in that capacity. I think others become pastors because it's a position of prestige. The first group is a blessing. The second can cause untold damage to a church.
The Word of God says that you know them by their fruit. :]
 
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A couple times in my life, especially when my fellowship with God wasn't broken, I have sort of "felt" like I was being moved to become a pastor. I've been told to do so one must be "called" and yet I've never had a clear definition of just what that means. I certainly feel in my heart and with my knowledge of the Word that I could do it.

Pastors are born pastors just as teachers are born teachers. Do not confuse the system of the pulpit for pastoral call. Real pastors care for people and are not usually found in the clergy. I have known real pastors in the clergy, of course, but the vast majority who call themselves pastors are actually teachers, preachers, worship leaders or administrators.

When I say pastors are born pastors, I am talking about one's natural temperament. In 1 Cor. 12 we have these verses:

1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.​
We see gifts, which are natural temperaments; we see administrations, or offices; and we see operations of the Spirit which is what the rest of the chapter addresses.

The administrations or offices are listed in Ephesians 4:11 and the gifts or natural temperaments are listed in Romans 12:6-8. Obviously there will be overlapping in all three areas. In my case my natural temperament is a prophetic teacher. I was born with these gifts and tendencies. I have operated in the gifts of the Holy Spirit in various ways and have taught Sunday School classes to exercise the office of a teacher.

However, I am not involved with the professional clergy. I have taught gymnastics my entire adult life. I came to Christ when I was 32 and thought I should be in the professional clergy. I fasted and prayed for a Word from God on what His calling was in my life. In church a prophecy was given to me that I should teach the Bible. I thought, Great, but how do I make my living? I came home from coaching one day and lay on my bed exhausted. With my eyes closed I had a mental image of Jesus in a long white robe running down a rod platform performing a round off, back handspring, back layout. I thought that was the most ridiculous thing I had ever seen. Then I saw the face of the Lord (my eyes were still closed and this was in my mind's eye) smiling at me. Then I heard Him speak to my heart, Keep teaching gymnastics, it is good for children.

I share my own story as an example. If you already have a heart of mercy and compassion and tend to exhort and encourage people, you already are a pastor. The question you have, of course, is Can you make your living doing this? For that answer, you have to hear from God for your self. Be encouraged, He will answer and you will know.

Post Script one day later
While chapter 7 of 1 Corinthians is answering questions about marriage, the principals therein apply to work as well. Consider what Paul says:

1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1Co 7:20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.

1Co 7:27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

1Co 7:29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;
1Co 7:30 And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;
1Co 7:31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.

And from Philippians, Timothy and Hebrews:
Php_4:11 Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
1Ti_6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
Heb_13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

Just as singles should not seek spouses, do not seek to enter the professional ministry, be content in what you already are doing, and if God wants you to move forward, He will bring that spouse or ministry to you.
 
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The Word of God says that you know them by their fruit. :]
If one teaches something that is contrary to what the Lord taught, that sort of gives them away, doesn't it?
 
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If one teaches something that is contrary to what the Lord taught, that sort of gives them away, doesn't it?
Yes it does and you can see those who do it for personal gain
 
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A couple times in my life, especially when my fellowship with God wasn't broken, I have sort of "felt" like I was being moved to become a pastor. I've been told to do so one must be "called" and yet I've never had a clear definition of just what that means. I certainly feel in my heart and with my knowledge of the Word that I could do it.

I feel that I could be a pastor as well and haven't been "Called" If I were to pursue this, I don't know exactly what to do as I do not believe that God, at this time in this dispensation, wants me to join a 501(c) church. I already have Psychology as a degree but, if I were called, whatever that means, I would seek out a Bible College for 5-fold ministry. Keep it humble and real. I wish you the best in your searching God's Living Spirit for the answer in your life.

Anne
 
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Please keep in mind that being a pastor is not just about preaching. Preaching is part of it, but you will also be doing pastoral care and counseling, visiting people at their homes and in hospitals, doing administration work, order of worship, sacraments, weddings, funerals, running and/or attending various committee meetings, budgeting, possibly even cleaning bathrooms, and basically anything else that is needed by your congregations and the size of your charge. You will be thinking about it 24/7 unless you make yourself take a period of sabbath rest.

As for whether you are called to be a pastor, you may want to first start out talking to your own pastor and see if others can confirm the calling. In my denomination, we have a very lengthy discernment/candidacy process to determine not only if someone is being called to vocational ministry, but determining exactly what type of vocational ministry they are being called to, and numerous people help you to affirm your ministry calling. There are other routes of vocational ministry besides pastor that may actually be where God is calling them, but they didn't know those routes existed until they started the discernment process, so don't think that vocational ministry must be pastor.

Find out everything you can about actually being a pastor behind-the-scenes, and if you have opportunities to practice preaching, visiting, helping with communion, lay reading, being on a committee, etc. then go for it!
 
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A couple times in my life, especially when my fellowship with God wasn't broken, I have sort of "felt" like I was being moved to become a pastor. I've been told to do so one must be "called" and yet I've never had a clear definition of just what that means. I certainly feel in my heart and with my knowledge of the Word that I could do it.
There is a Scripture that says that when our ways please the Lord, He will give us the desires of our hearts. There have been times when someone has come to a priest in the OT, the priest has said, "Do what is in your heart to do." Nathan said that to David, and then the Lord told him to go back to David with an amendment.

I believe that when we are walking with the Lord, our desires and aspirations are good. I have always wanted to be a pastor, and I made moves when I was younger in that direction. It was when I left the Pentecostal church and joined an Anglican church and felt that being an Anglican minister would be good. So I wrote to the bishop, and he told me to serve the church where I was and to start doing study toward the minister's qualification. I ended up doing five papers toward the Licentiate of Theology, and then I got the opportunity to attend university. Because I was a school dropout, I had to apply for special admission, and the five theology papers were a support for that to prove that I could do academic work. Four years later I had a degree in English and a diploma of teaching. This led me into a 19 year career in teaching. I got married in 1990, and between one teaching job and another, I mentioned to my wife that I might go and have "a yarn" with the bishop about becoming a minister. She told me that she did not marry me to become a ministers wife! So that put the kybosh on that! So I continued teaching, until I left teaching and became a District Court Victim Advisor for 10 years until I retired.

Now, in the meantime, in 1996, I joined a Presbyterian church in Auckland NZ, and started by singing in the choir and teaching Sunday School. Then I was invited to become a deacon, then the church treasurer. After that I became an elder in the church. When the senior elder stood down, I took his place. When we lost our minister through declining finances, and so I, as the rotten apple, had risen to the top. In effect, now I am performing what is in effect the pastoral duties of the church involving being a member of the ministry team, preaching around once a month and regularly running the first-half worship part of the church service. So, between 1979 to around 2013, I developed into what is essentially the pastor of my church, and my wife has no objections. In my old age, I gained a three-year Master of Divinity degree, so I would be well qualified to be a church pastor.

So that is my story. I set my course to become a minister and started doing what I could to prepare myself. The journey and decisions were made as opportunities arose, and, looking back, I can see the plan of God in it. The Scripture says that a man may plan his way, but the Lord directs his steps. It has been a wonderful journey with lots of blessings on the way.

So, if you have the desire to be a pastor, go for it! Do the preparation in the areas which are open to do. But be prepared to be the church janitor and clean the toilets if that is the door that opens to you. If you are faithful in that, God will see that you mean business with Him and He will guide you and open doors for you. Promotion does not come from the east or the west, but the Lord is the one who sets up one and puts down another. Look at the experience of Joseph. He had aspirations, but it was a rough journey getting there. But got there he did!

But don't allow others to dictate to you. Be your own person. Use the opportunities open to you. Be single minded like Elisha when he stuck with Elijah who repeatedly told him to stay at a place while he journeyed on. Elisha refused to leave his side. Elijah was his mentor, but Elisha was not going to obey him in this. He was determined to get a double portion of what Elijah had, and not even his mentor was going to talk him out of it. Just calmly think about that!
 
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