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California chooses 'same old same old'

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arnegrim said:
With the election over, California voters have chosen to continue down the path of state destruction.

Makes me sick...

I've said it before, I'll say it again, we all know we're going to have to stop spending money somewhere, and everyone's all gung-ho for it as long as THEY don't lose any money.

Actually try to cut back spending and it's all about how you're killing babies, starving old people, and silencing workers.

My one question: Why are primary and middle school teachers getting tenure in the first place?
 
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arnegrim said:
With the election over, California voters have chosen to continue down the path of state destruction.

Makes me sick...
Yet strangely they're doing relatively well. They might have had rolling blackouts, but at least one faulty power plant didn't shut down the state for a few days.
 
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Alarum said:
Yet strangely they're doing relatively well. They might have had rolling blackouts, but at least one faulty power plant didn't shut down the state for a few days.

Sorry... this was about a lot more then 'rolling blackouts'...
 
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Jetgirl said:
Why are primary and middle school teachers getting tenure in the first place?

To guarantee that the school won't simply replace them every 5 years with cheaper teachers. It's not really that much of a surprise that teachers would want to have some job security is it? Getting rid of higher paid teachers to replace them with lower paid less experienced ones is an (all too) easy way to cut the budget. This protects teachers from being removed for issues not related to their performance.
 
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nvxplorer said:
These special elections are the biggest waste of money. What did this one cost? $70 million? There’s no reason these initiatives coudn’t have waited until next November.

A wonderful lie the left is propagating... Arnolds initiatives only added on about $30 million. The election was already going to happen in most of the state... Arnold just took advantage of that to put his initiatives before the people.
 
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arnegrim said:
A wonderful lie the left is propagating... Arnolds initiatives only added on about $30 million. The election was already going to happen in most of the state... Arnold just took advantage of that to put his initiatives before the people.
Why do you assume my information comes from the left? John McLaughlin stated $70 million on his show Sunday. McLaughlin is not a liberal.

It turns out we’re both wrong. The election cost $44.7 million. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/10/MNGNLFLQRU1.DTL

These initiatives could have been put on the ballot next November. For a state that is going broke, it’s unwise to hold special elections even if they cost only $5 million more than waiting until the general election. What was so urgent that the vote had to be taken now?
 
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nvxplorer said:
Why do you assume my information comes from the left? John McLaughlin stated $70 million on his show Sunday. McLaughlin is not a liberal.

It turns out we’re both wrong. The election cost $44.7 million. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/10/MNGNLFLQRU1.DTL

These initiatives could have been put on the ballot next November. For a state that is going broke, it’s unwise to hold special elections even if they cost only $5 million more than waiting until the general election. What was so urgent that the vote had to be taken now?

Because the state is going broke.

For a state that is going broke, why did the people choose the same old thing?
 
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Dworkin said:
I am so pleased that most of those initiatives didn't pass. I was too late to vote that night.

Why is that? Do you enjoy single party rule and what amounts to non-elected "representatives" due to the gerrymandered districts?
 
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It seems that a lot of California voters are happy with corrupt legislators who can't even pass a budget on time most years. Not surprising; they elected those geniuses in the first place.

I don't care which party the legislators are from, if only they would do their jobs. Which they won't. Idiots.
 
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Texas Lynn said:
California voters were wise to vote down Arnold's anti-worker initiatives. Would that people in other states would wake up to the fact the Republican Party has nothing of value to offer anyone except plutocrats.

Hardly anti-worker, just anti-the unions controlling every aspect of the state government. How can you possibly blame any problem in California on the republicans? Arnold is the only one in the entire executive branch and the dems have the assembly and senate so locked up that nothing at all gets through them. To say the republicans have done anything here is a joke.
 
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Texas Lynn said:
California voters were wise to vote down Arnold's anti-worker initiatives. Would that people in other states would wake up to the fact the Republican Party has nothing of value to offer anyone except plutocrats.

Anti-worker initiatives!!!

Not hardly.

How do you include the redistricting and balanced budget initiatives in that?
 
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