C vs. E - Pointless debate

[aeroz19]

not too bad. I'm still waiting for the jet to be put together by a tornado passing through a junkyard

Theistic part in TE = tornado passing through a junkyard?

 

[Jet Black]

Theistic part in TE = tornado passing through a junkyard?

no no, it is a commonly used (flawed) counterargument against abiogenesis, something along the lines of "expecting a bacteria to be made by random chance is like expecting a jumbo jet to be constructed by a tornado passing through a junkyard"

 

[Norseman]

not too bad. I'm still waiting for the jet to be put together by a tornado passing through a junkyard

Don't you mean the Black Helicopter?

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[Deamiter]

I guess you could call me a convert (largely by the work of Jet Black, not that THAT ego needs any stroking). It's easy to lose track of the facts unless you're getting occasional reality checks.

 

[Jet Black]

I guess you could call me a convert (largely by the work of Jet Black, not that THAT ego needs any stroking). It's easy to lose track of the facts unless you're getting occasional reality checks.

lol I don't have that much of an ego do I? I hope not!

 

[WWJND]

Lucaspa,

Thanks for the creatique. I probably should have specified that my involvement with Christianity has been mainly, straight literal Biblical teaching, very conservative. One interesting note (it appears you may be Christian), is that many of my professors in college (Biol., Phys., and Chem.) were Christian, in fact predominantly so. I have an opinion/question about that too though. If a highly intelligent man or womain dedicates his life to science and still comes up short on the answers to his questions, he too could fall into the mold of "God did it". I am not trying to put anyone down or simplifying things, but a man or woman of science who sees things in a lab/research and can't corrolate it with known science is just as susceptible to believing in the "the world is so complex there must have been creation" mind set as the average Joe working his 9 to 5 who is amazed by the most easily explained things of the world, in science terms. Does any of that make sense?

Thanks for the replies.

 

[Bushido216]

It could happen. Or, given their scientific backgrounds, they could decide that they simply haven't found the answer yet and that more research is needed. Either is possible.

Saying "Goddidit", though, is the ultimate giving-up. Why bother doing any research at all at that point?

 

[Deamiter]

Naw Jet Black, you're much better than the average scientist I've interacted with (outside of MY conservative school).

Speaking of conservative schools, ALL of my teachers are Christian. Many do find it much easier to say, "God did it!" but then well over half of the science professors (and all but one or two of the biology professors out of a dozen) trust the hundreds of years of documented observation rather than the last couple hundred years of propaganda. Within the Christian scientific community there are definately scientists being decieved, but I believe there are many more that simply learn to question their assumptions more thoroughally. If all Christians would question as much as this, I think Christianity as a whole would be much more unified but that's a topic for another board...

 

[pureone]

. If all Christians would question as much as this, I think Christianity as a whole would be much more unified but that's a topic for another board...

That is a problem with Creationist and atheists. Both often Equate atheism with Evolution or other science. This causes a problem, for then Christianity suffers, simply because people feel there is no reconciling science and God, (done by parties on both sides of the thological coin. Some power athiests are fine with that equation, because they want to see christianity destroyed by science.

This also hurts science...