Bye Bye Boehner

[JustOneWay]

An old widow woman house burned to the ground, she lost everything, Some in Congress wanted to pass a bill authorizing some "Financial assistance",

Davy Crockett took the floor and ask "Where in the Constitution does it allow the Congress to take the people's hard earned tax money and just give it away"????

Congress had no choice but to agree with him, and took up an "offering" from among the Reps and gave the woman the financial assistance she needed.

Today, if the old lady wanted her house rebuilt, she would need insurance, that she pays for.

Are you talking about when Crockett did not want government money to go to the widow of a dead navy hero?

 

[smaneck]

Where does the Constitution authorize allow us to maintain a standing army? Yet no one complains about that.

The old lady, by the way, was the widow of a distinguished naval officer, but if you think it is unconstitutional to take care of the families of our fallen war heroes, I guess you are entitled to your opinion.

An old widow woman house burned to the ground, she lost everything, Some in Congress wanted to pass a bill authorizing some "Financial assistance",

Davy Crockett took the floor and ask "Where in the Constitution does it allow the Congress to take the people's hard earned tax money and just give it away"????

Congress had no choice but to agree with him, and took up an "offering" from among the Reps and gave the woman the financial assistance she needed.

 

[Short Timer]

Where does the Constitution authorize allow us to maintain a standing army? Yet no one complains about that.

The old lady, by the way, was the widow of a distinguished naval officer, but if you think it is unconstitutional to take care of the families of our fallen war heroes, I guess you are entitled to your opinion.

I guess ya'll don't know the difference between "Law" and "Charity".

I guess it doesn't matter to ya'll either that the supreme court doesn't have legislative powers but it's OK to enforce their "Opinion" as if it was law.

So what do we need with a "Constitution" if no one must obey it???

 

[smaneck]

I guess ya'll don't know the difference between "Law" and "Charity".

Oh, I do. Providing food stamps to everyone who qualifies is law. Signaling out a single person to receive benefits that others in similar positions would not get is charity.

I guess it doesn't matter to ya'll either that the supreme court doesn't have legislative powers but it's OK to enforce their "Opinion" as if it was law.

Their "opinion" is their interpretation of the Constitution. That's the only opinions they issue. If they were just issuing their personal opinions about what we should do it is likely they would overturn Roe vs. Wade given that six of its members are Catholics. But their job is to interpret the Constitution not Humanae Vitae. So they do their job regardless of their personal views. And yes, their rulings constitute law, Constitutional law.

So what do we need with a "Constitution" if no one must obey it???

You mean like that County Clerk in Kentucky?

 

[smaneck]

And George Washington chopped down his father's cherry tree...

Yeah, I kind of doubt the veracity of that story as well. The only place I could find it was on a right-wing blog and no source was given.

 

[DaisyDay]

Yeah, I kind of doubt the veracity of that story as well. The only place I could find it was on a right-wing blog and no source was given.

Iirc, that story first showed up about fifty years after he had died. It's not in the Congressional Record.

 

[Short Timer]

Oh, I do. Providing food stamps to everyone who qualifies is law. Signaling out a single person to receive benefits that others in similar positions would not get is charity.



Their "opinion" is their interpretation of the Constitution. That's the only opinions they issue. If they were just issuing their personal opinions about what we should do it is likely they would overturn Roe vs. Wade given that six of its members are Catholics. But their job is to interpret the Constitution not Humanae Vitae. So they do their job regardless of their personal views. And yes, their rulings constitute law, Constitutional law.



You mean like that County Clerk in Kentucky?

How do you violate a law that doesn't exist?????

What part of "legislative power to created laws" is "Vested"....."ONLY" in the House and Senate",

and not the Supreme Court,

is it that you don't understand??

And it was setup that way so that "every single American" could cast their "Vote" through their Reps in the House/Senate to approve/disapprove the Courts decision.

A "RIGHT" that has been denied to "every single American", even you.

It's one of the forms of "Checks and balances" against one branch of Government seizing total control,

which the supreme court has now done.

The powers of Government are "Enumerated" (listed) in the Constitution, and taking money from one people and giving it away to other people are not "Enumerated".

 

[Short Timer]

Yeah, I kind of doubt the veracity of that story as well. The only place I could find it was on a right-wing blog and no source was given.

I looked but didn't find the "Stump" of the cherry tree when I visited George's old homeplace, but did find his tomb.

 

[RhaegarTargaryen]

I'm certain that Francis threatened Boehner to resign. The timing of this is not coincidental.

 

[DaisyDay]

I'm certain that Frances threatened Boehner to resign. The timing of this is not coincidental.

Helpful mnemonic:
Frances - her
Francis - his

 

[RhaegarTargaryen]

Helpful mnemonic:
Frances - her
Francis - his

Was there a point here, except correcting a typing error?

 

[DaisyDay]

Was there a point here, except correcting a typing error?

"Helpful mnemonic"

 

[RhaegarTargaryen]

That's extremely unlikely. What would the Pope have to gain by that?

Don't you consider the possibility that people don't act solely based on a cost-benefit analysis, but also according to what they believe?

 

[DaisyDay]

Don't you consider the possibility that people don't act solely based on a cost-benefit analysis, but also according to what they believe?

Of course, but your question doesn't begin to answer my question.

Boehner has always been a vocal opponent of abortion but he's not willing to shut down the government over the funding issue that isn't even going to win. Last time the US economy took a hit and our bond rating got lowered which automatically cost us more money for nothing.

 

[RhaegarTargaryen]

Of course, but your question doesn't begin to answer my question.

Yes it does.
You seem to assume that the pope would have to have something tangible to gain by excommunicating. Money, resources, promises from Obama, etc.
While all of those are possible (and the last one rather likely), none of them are necessary.

Boehner has always been a vocal opponent of abortion but he's not willing to shut down the government over the funding issue that isn't even going to win. Last time the US economy took a hit and our bond rating got lowered which automatically cost us more money for nothing.

I don't see what that has to do with the point I made?

 

[DaisyDay]

Yes it does.
You seem to assume that the pope would have to have something tangible to gain by excommunicating. Money, resources, promises from Obama, etc.
While all of those are possible (and the last one rather likely), none of them are necessary.

The assumption of tangibility is yours, not mine.

I don't see what that has to do with the point I made?

But I do.

 

[RhaegarTargaryen]

The assumption of tangibility is yours, not mine.

Then please explain what you mean?

But I do.

Then please explain what you mean?

 

[DaisyDay]

Then please explain what you mean?

When I asked what the Pope would have to gain by Boehner's resignation, I didn't mean that it would have to be something tangible as you evidently assume I meant.

Again, since this was not answered but merely questioned, what would he have to gain - tangible or intangible - by Boehner's leaving Congress and the Speakership?

Then please explain what you mean?

You asked, rather insultingly imo, "Don't you consider the possibility that people don't act solely based on a cost-benefit analysis, but also according to what they believe?"

People can hold more than one belief at a time, even when they may conflict. Boehner has always been opposed to abortion but he is also opposed to wrecking the US economy.

 

[RhaegarTargaryen]

Again, since this was not answered but merely questioned, what would he have to gain - tangible or intangible - by Boehner's leaving Congress and the Speakership?

The chance to get someone more to his liking as No 3 in the American leadership.

You asked, rather insultingly imo, "Don't you consider the possibility that people don't act solely based on a cost-benefit analysis, but also according to what they believe?"

It wasn't insulting at all. You seemed to me to indicate precisely that.

 

[DaisyDay]

The chance to get someone more to his liking as No 3 in the American leadership.

Rather a slim chance.

It wasn't insulting at all. You seemed to me to indicate precisely that.

Projection.