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Not to go off-topic, but let's not forget Giordano Bruno. Who was condemned by the Catholic church as a heretic and burned at the stake about 50 years after Servetus. At least part of Bruno's heresy was his teaching that the universe contained many worlds which might contain intelligent life.
When you present the option
There is not a Christian alive today who is not a heretic to some other Christian alive today.
When you present the option
It is never acceptable to execute heretics
Do you mean like in any situation right now? Or that it has never been acceptable at any time in history?
The present tense of the option makes it sounds like its only about right now.
The OP presumably means it in the sense, "It is unconditionally unacceptable to execute heretics" (at any time in the past, present, or future).
Whoops. I quote the wrong person previously. That was dumb.(poll option) It is never acceptable to execute heretics
Really? I thought the motive was to protect people from false doctrines, as their very souls are at stake?Which was self serving.
So regarding the past. Isnt that a matter of history rather than about personal moral opinion?
I mean, I'm presuming that burning was acceptable to many, based on state/church sanction. And no ones present day personal morality can change that.
A convenient tool, yes. In the world of man the majority, be it secular or Christianity will seek to defend it's institutions while the minority will seek to defend the Kingdom of Go9d.Or was dogmatic certainty just a ruse to keep the church flush with power and money?
Governments, militaries, etc, may or might and do execute people for anything from a whim to destroying a city or anything else they 'choose' to do so for - including for their beliefs/ faith/ life.On this day (October 27) in 1553, Michael Servetus was burned at the stake in Geneva for spreading heretical beliefs concerning the Trinity.
Michael Servetus - Wikipedia
I cannot make sense of executing others for heretical beliefs. But, for better or worse, Christians have done just that. It seems to me, if it is wrong to execute heretics today, then it was wrong to do so in the past. But, some might disagree.
How did you vote and why?
The idea that the Church didn't want the Bible translated into local languages in order to keep people from reading it is a myth you'd do well not to continue spreading.
Foxxe disagrees. Answers in Genesis disagrees.
What would you consider a reliable source? I can hunt for my copy of Foxes Book of Martyrs and get a few names of men burnt at the stake for teh crime of translating Scripture into the vulgar tongue.
When Jesus returns will He not return in blazing fire, and will He not destroy the heretics?On this day (October 27) in 1553, Michael Servetus was burned at the stake in Geneva for spreading heretical beliefs concerning the Trinity.
Michael Servetus - Wikipedia
I cannot make sense of executing others for heretical beliefs. But, for better or worse, Christians have done just that. It seems to me, if it is wrong to execute heretics today, then it was wrong to do so in the past. But, some might disagree.
How did you vote and why?
Well, now I find it unacceptable to execute heretics.Your question pertains to an arguable point. I tried to frame the options in such a way as to allow for both an absolute moral imperative as well as a relative moral claim that would be contingent on context.
You seem to be arguing that the acceptability is dependent on historical context. In that case you might have chosen "It use to be acceptable, but it is no longer acceptable to execute heretics." Or you might have chosen, "It is sometimes acceptable to execute heretics" and then argued the "sometimes" is dependent on the historical context.
I stated in the OP my position which is: If it is wrong today, then it was wrong then. I put it that way in order to convey that it is always wrong to execute heretics. That is an absolute. Therefore, I chose "It is never acceptable to execute heretics." I see why you might be reading that in the present tense. The "is never" is intended to convey an absolute. Does that help?
If you take the position that the moral imperative is an absolute, as I do, then even though they found it acceptable in the past doesn't somehow make it right. On the contrary, if it is never acceptable, then they were wrong. An absolute moral imperative doesn't change with context, presumably.
Again, all of this arguable. So, I look forward to your argument that, in this instance, the acceptability of executing heretics depends on the context.
When Jesus returns will He not return in blazing fire, and will He not destroy the heretics?
We are in a war.
Has the church burned heretics?
Does fire purify or not?
Christians don't burn heretics because that is forbidden. An inquisitor is endowed with the authority to burn heretics.
Now we enter the scramble world of church tradition.
Are ISIS members called inquisitors?Are ISIS members also endowed with
authority to saw off peoples heads?
Well, now I find it unacceptable to execute heretics.
But if I put myself back in the 13th century, what would I think, given I'd have 13th c education (likely none), went to a 13th c church with other 13th c parishioners, had 13th c friends and parents? I would likely think like a 13th c person. And if they typically thought burning OK, I probably would too. Wouldnt you?
Are ISIS members called inquisitors?
Severing a head is not biblical.
Burning with fire purifies.
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