Brussels terrorist attacks

[simplegifts]

Very very sad.

Did you see this? http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/03/s...-woman-was-caught-doing-at-brussels-memorial/ What is the lady doing? Why is she trampling on flags of countries standing with Brussels? Then scroll down to the second video?

 

[Amatorreginae]

Following on from the atrocity in Brussels, Glasgow yesterday saw the murder of Asad Shah, an Ahmadi Muslim knifed over 30 times by a co-religionist. His crime? Posting "GOOD FRIDAY AND VERY HAPPY EASTER ESPECIALLY TO MY BELOVED CHRISTIAN NATION X!" and "Let's Follow The Real Footstep Of Beloved Holy JESUS CHRIST And Get The Real Success In Both Worlds xxxx". He was 1) an Ahmadi, and therefore an 'apostate'; and 2) wishing Christendom well and speaking well of Easter. Both 'crimes' carry the death penalty. Remember this truly peaceful man and what the 'Religion of Peace' did to him.

 

[Archivist]

Following on from the atrocity in Brussels, Glasgow yesterday saw the murder of Asad Shah, an Ahmadi Muslim knifed over 30 times by a co-religionist. His crime? Posting "GOOD FRIDAY AND VERY HAPPY EASTER ESPECIALLY TO MY BELOVED CHRISTIAN NATION X!" and "Let's Follow The Real Footstep Of Beloved Holy JESUS CHRIST And Get The Real Success In Both Worlds xxxx". He was 1) an Ahmadi, and therefore an 'apostate'; and 2) wishing Christendom well and speaking well of Easter. Both 'crimes' carry the death penalty. Remember this truly peaceful man and what the 'Religion of Peace' did to him.

But is that the norm? I have a Muslim friend who always sends me Christmas and Easter greetings on FB. I recall a Christian couple who refused to take their sick baby to a doctor because their church believed in faith healing. The baby died. Can that be held against all Christians? Of course not. These people were extremists, what they did was not representative of Christians as a whole.

 

[Amatorreginae]

But is that the norm? I have a Muslim friend who always sends me Christmas and Easter greetings on FB. I recall a Christian couple who refused to take their sick baby to a doctor because their church believed in faith healing. The baby died. Can that be held against all Christians? Of course not. These people were extremists, what they did was not representative of Christians as a whole.

A good many people of any faith don't bother to read their scriptures. If the Christian couple did, there's a chance that the baby would have lived; if the Muslims did, there would either be more murders, or more of them leaving the religion.

So what does the Quran mandate? 9:29 "Fight against such of those to whom the Scriptures were given as believe neither in God nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and His apostle have forbidden, and do not embrace the true Faith, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." 9:73 "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them." Just two of the verses against disbelievers. Translation: N.J Dawood. If you think the translation's wrong, I can give the Arabic; if you think I've taken them out of context, show me.

From Al-Bukhari, an important hadith (a record of Mohammed's views and actions) 9:17: "Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (Apostate) and leaves the Muslims." That's just one verse from this book concerning apostasy. There are many verses in both the Quran and the ahadith (plural of hadith) mandating death for various classes of people. It's also unlawful for them to make friends with either Christians or Jews.

 

[simplegifts]

An Islamist pushing the envelope.

 

[Thursday]

Er… I am not sure I understand you correctly. You do realise that these terrorists make up only a minority of all Muslims, do you not? Most Muslims are against these attacks; those who support them are only extremists.

What percentage of Muslims support these attacks?

In the United States, a 2011 survey found that 86% of Muslimssay that such tactics are rarely or never justified. An additional 7% say suicide bombings are sometimes justified and 1% say they are often justified in these circumstances.

In a few countries, a quarter or more of Muslims say that these acts of violence are at least sometimes justified, including 40% in the Palestinian territories, 39% in Afghanistan, 29% in Egypt and 26% in Bangladesh.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

 

[Archivist]

A good many people of any faith don't bother to read their scriptures. If the Christian couple did, there's a chance that the baby would have lived; if the Muslims did, there would either be more murders, or more of them leaving the religion.

So what does the Quran mandate? 9:29 "Fight against such of those to whom the Scriptures were given as believe neither in God nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and His apostle have forbidden, and do not embrace the true Faith, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." 9:73 "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them." Just two of the verses against disbelievers. Translation: N.J Dawood. If you think the translation's wrong, I can give the Arabic; if you think I've taken them out of context, show me.

From Al-Bukhari, an important hadith (a record of Mohammed's views and actions) 9:17: "Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (Apostate) and leaves the Muslims." That's just one verse from this book concerning apostasy. There are many verses in both the Quran and the ahadith (plural of hadith) mandating death for various classes of people. It's also unlawful for them to make friends with either Christians or Jews.

As Thursday has pointed out, the vast majority of Muslims do not support such attacks.

As one who once dated a lovely and kind Muslim girl I can say that we were far more than friends.

 

[WolfGate]

I think everyone pretty much acknowledges that the violent extremists are a minority, right? However, even an extremely small percentage of extremists cause a major problem. With 2B estimated in the world, even if only one tenth of 1% are extremist you're looking at 2,000,000 terrorists around. That is a problem.

 

[The Portuguese Baptist]

What percentage of Muslims support these attacks?

In the United States, a 2011 survey found that 86% of Muslimssay that such tactics are rarely or never justified. An additional 7% say suicide bombings are sometimes justified and 1% say they are often justified in these circumstances.

In a few countries, a quarter or more of Muslims say that these acts of violence are at least sometimes justified, including 40% in the Palestinian territories, 39% in Afghanistan, 29% in Egypt and 26% in Bangladesh.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

I rest my case, though I do admit that I was expecting a bit of a lower acceptance rate.

 

[Thursday]

I rest my case, though I do admit that I was expecting a bit of a lower acceptance rate.

I think I proved your case to be flawed. If only 10% of 1 billion Muslims support terror attacks, that's 100 million people. That's a big problem.

We would be totally within our rights to limit Muslim immigration until we can be sure that the individual in question poses no threat to our families.

Do you think that is unreasonable?

 

[Archivist]

I think I proved your case to be flawed. If only 10% of 1 billion Muslims support terror attacks, that's 100 million people. That's a big problem.

We would be totally within our rights to limit Muslim immigration until we can be sure that the individual in question poses no threat to our families.

Do you think that is unreasonable?

However the polls you posted earlier were in regard to percentages of Muslins who found various attacks to be justified, not about how many Muslims would be willing to participate in such attacks. My guess is that number would be far less than 10%.

 

[Thursday]

However the polls you posted earlier were in regard to percentages of Muslins who found various attacks to be justified, not about how many Muslims would be willing to participate in such attacks. My guess is that number would be far less than 10%.

That's probably true. However, these Muslims can't be counted on to inform on terrorist plots, and they may even participate.

That's not the kind of citizens we need.

Why not freeze Muslim immigration until we have a better handle on who the bad guys are?

 

[revanneosl]

As long as Christian men are murdering people in healthcare clinics, shooting people in worship services, and attacking federal government buildings, some of which contain day care centers, I will concentrate on cleaning my own religious house, rather than attempting to police other religions.

Although, I do have to say that, when one looks at the violence of Muslims, the violence of Christians, and the generalized violence of the whole of history, it begins more and more to look as if the smart thing to do would be to simply lock up all of the men.

 

[simplegifts]

revanneosl Where does the Gospel message call on Christians to murder people in healthcare clinics, shoot people in worship services, and attack federal government buildings?

 

[revanneosl]

I don't know. You'd have to ask the forced-pregnancy advocates, Islamophobes, and small government fanatics on the board. I'm sure they have scripture to back up their murder.

 

[simplegifts]

I don't know. You'd have to ask the forced-pregnancy advocates, Islamophobes, and small government fanatics on the board. I'm sure they have scripture to back up their murder.

Oh yay the quote button is working for me now!

If you were to read the Quran and hadith you would find all kinds of violence ordered by Mohammad.

 

[YoureMyBeloved]

This is terrible. And Portugal is being threatened,too.

Oh yay the quote button is working for me now!

If you were to read the Quran and hadith you would find all kinds of violence ordered by Mohammad.

I think that it's written in the Quran that "All human life is sacred"?

 

[The Portuguese Baptist]

This is terrible. And Portugal is being threatened,too.



I think that it's written in the Quran that "All human life is sacred"?

Hey! Look! Another Portuguese person!

Olá! (Hello!)