Brokeback Mountain

[Yusuf Evans]

I always thought John Wayne was gay?

Anyway, isn't it funny how a movie about gay cowboys is awful because it could cause someone to come out of the closet and actually admit to being a homosexual, but if someone got saved as the result of sitting through "The Passion of the Christ", Mel Gibson is given every accolade under the sun just short of being deified by the Christian community?

I can't wait to see the movie. I think it looks very dramatic. Boy, I sure hope I don't get any crazy ideas and suddenly choose to become a lesbian while watching it! My fiance should would be a sad man.

I don't think that Mel Gibson deserves accolades for "The Passion". That was the work of the Holy Spirit within the unsaved to repent and accept Christ. Second, I don't think two gay cowboys had to endure the same type of punishment that Christ endured so that all who accept would go to Heaven. No comparison at all.

 

[Lokisdottir]

I don't think that Mel Gibson deserves accolades for "The Passion". That was the work of the Holy Spirit within the unsaved to repent and accept Christ. Second, I don't think two gay cowboys had to endure the same type of punishment that Christ endured so that all who accept would go to Heaven. No comparison at all.

I don't think that was quite the point. The point is that movies are apparently only allowed to influence people in a way Christians (in general) approve of.

 

[Yusuf Evans]

I don't think that was quite the point. The point is that movies are apparently only allowed to influence people in a way Christians (in general) approve of.

If that was the case, then how come "The Passion" got shunned out of any Oscars, yet this movie is being raved as best movie material? I'm not seeing the bias here.

 

[Lokisdottir]

If that was the case, then how come "The Passion" got shunned out of any Oscars, yet this movie is being raved as best movie material? I'm not seeing the bias here.

How do you know it got shunned out of them? I've never seen the movie so I don't know how good or bad it was.

 

[Yusuf Evans]

How do you know it got shunned out of them? I've never seen the movie so I don't know how good or bad it was.

As a Christian, I believe it drove home the sacrifice and punishment Jesus took to save us. However, in the eyes of the Hollywood left, it wasn't worthy Oscar material, simply because of it's religious nature. I mean, Mel Gibson forked out over 10million of his own money to fund it. No studio wanted to help out, and it was a huge success, grossing somewhere around 500 million worldwide, and no Oscars.

 

[KinderBee]

I want to see the movie I think it's going to be great. Here in Backwoods, Usa the movie is not playing yet.

 

[Kgreg]

I think it's important that people be honest about who they are too. I've had sex with a number of married men who had sex with men on the side. Sometimes their wives were aware of if, sometimes not. They all claimed to have children at home. I think they also loved their children. Maybe they even loved their wives.

The issue always comes down to personal responsibility. If a man (or woman) is having sex outside of the marriage, I believe it's wrong, even if that marriage is "open". At least that person is maintaining the commitment to the marriage to certain extent, even if it for selfish reasons. The sex on the side, homo or hetero, is also being done for selfish reasons. However, the epitome of their selfishness is when they leave the marriage and the family in order to indulge their own selfishness seual desires wholeheartedly.

If a man commits to marriage and has children in that marriage, he should keep his penis in the marriage. Infidelity and allowing a hollywood film influence his decision, be it a minor or major influence or just tool to justify what's going on in his head, is nothing but raw selfishness.

 

[LouTheWicked]

"Don't watch the movie, it'll turn you gay! Ahhh!"

Prrrrrrttthhh. Unbelievable paranoia

 

[freealaska]

If a man commits to marriage and has children in that marriage, he should keep his penis in the marriage. Infidelity and allowing a hollywood film influence his decision, be it a minor or major influence or just tool to justify what's going on in his head, is nothing but raw selfishness.

In otherwords gay men and lesbians should be encouraged to come out early (prefereably in their teens or shortly thereafter). Gay men have no business marrying straight women and vice-versa and if they didn't then they would never have to worry about breaking the heart of their opposite-sex spouse and innocent children.

 

[MRGUK]

As a Christian, I believe it drove home the sacrifice and punishment Jesus took to save us. However, in the eyes of the Hollywood left, it wasn't worthy Oscar material, simply because of it's religious nature. I mean, Mel Gibson forked out over 10million of his own money to fund it. No studio wanted to help out, and it was a huge success, grossing somewhere around 500 million worldwide, and no Oscars.

Or perhaps to some people (like me) it just wasn't a good movie. But then again, I can't relate to it like you can. To me, it was just a blood and gore fest, and I wouldn't give an oscar to it no matter how much money it made.

 

[Yusuf Evans]

Or perhaps to some people (like me) it just wasn't a good movie. But then again, I can't relate to it like you can. To me, it was just a blood and gore fest, and I wouldn't give an oscar to it no matter how much money it made.

Exactly. That's how I felt about Monster's Ball. It wasn't Halle Berry's best performance, yet she got an Oscar for that. I guess since she had to have sex with Billy Bob Thonton, maybe she needed some kind of award.

 

[freealaska]

Freealaska on:

Brokeback Mountain.

"A friend of mine asked me to go with him when the movie comes to Telluride. I read the short story that Brokeback Mountain is based upon about a year ago. I thought it was fairly well-written but ultimately (as is often the case with Annie Proulx's work) it had the tenor of a "reverse fairytale"; people rarely live happily ever after. I suppose that's a more or less realistic assessment of the troubles gay men experienced in 1960's and 1970's America.

Will I go see it? I probably will. I owe it to my friend, afterall I dragged him kicking and screaming to see Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire"

 

[Spherical Time]

The sad "anti-fairy tale" tenor to the movie is also common in works that feature gay men. In most films, books and plays that I've seen dealing with the subject, at least one of the gay men must die (usually the one that pushes the boundaries of sexual expression the farthest. Look at works like Rent, Jeffery, Philadelphia or even Rocky Horror, all of which have to kill the gay character to punish the protagonist. Pictures like Get Real may not have the same morbidity, but they still can't end happily for the gay character. When works like Big Eden started coming out I rushed out to buy it because I just couldn't believe that finally we were having movies with happy endings.

 

[BigToe]

The actors playing the cowboys have both said this has been the most macho roles they have ever played. Both cowboys get married and have children at some point. It is actually a very good film and you don't really think about who is falling in love.

I would definately recommend this film to anyone.

Now, if someone sees a movie and then tries to model their lives after it, I think blaming the movie is completely inaccurate and misplaced. Someone failed to teach that individual the difference between fiction and reality. If someone wants so much to adjust their life to match that in the media, I believe they are in need of some serious counseling to get at the root of that and figure out why they want to do that and how they can resolve that problem.

 

[BigToe]

Also, the novel on which this is based is an excellent book.

 

[ChipperWoodchuck]

Terrific film. Best that I've seen all year, so far. Finally, a film that shows homosexual love as....shock of shocks....LOVE. A romantic, tear-inducing, heartbreaking film. One of the great screen romances in recent years. I urge everybody, gay or straight, to see it!

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

The sad "anti-fairy tale" tenor to the movie is also common in works that feature gay men. In most films, books and plays that I've seen dealing with the subject, at least one of the gay men must die (usually the one that pushes the boundaries of sexual expression the farthest. Look at works like Rent, Jeffery, Philadelphia or even Rocky Horror, all of which have to kill the gay character to punish the protagonist. Pictures like Get Real may not have the same morbidity, but they still can't end happily for the gay character. When works like Big Eden started coming out I rushed out to buy it because I just couldn't believe that finally we were having movies with happy endings.

Haha, Get Real. That was a great movie.

I thought I was the only person in the world to even... like... know what that was.

 

[Arnold_Philips]

Also, the novel on which this is based is an excellent book.

Technically it's a short story. I read the copy my boyfriend had last night and it was not as impressive as the movie, though still good. The pacing of the movie was fantastic IMO and that simply wasn't conveyed in the written work.

 

[Spherical Time]

Haha, Get Real. That was a great movie.

I thought I was the only person in the world to even... like... know what that was.

I've met one other person that's seen it.

So, yeah, there are a couple of us. Ever seen Big Eden? I obviously recommend it.

 

[BigToe]

As a filmmaker, the ONLY thing I think The Passion would have qualified for in terms of an Oscar nomination was cinematography. Other than that, it simply didn't add up once you took out the emotional/spiritual connection people had to the movie (I didn't have either, had a hard time identifying with it as being Jesus and in fact the only one I felt really bad for was Mary because she was a mother having to watch her son die. And I say this as a Christian. It just didn't have the character development to really make me identify with him as Christ).

Brokeback Mountain has AMAZING acting, the cinematography is wonderful, the directing, it's a full package. Even beyond any attachment to the subject matter it adds up. That is why it is getting nods to be nominated for Oscars and such.