British Gov euthanize brain-dead baby(RIP)

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Alfie Evans, the 23-month-old toddler at the centre of a High Court legal battle, has died, nearly a week after his life support was withdrawn.

The boy from Merseyside, who had a degenerative brain condition, died at 02:30 BST, his father Tom Evans said.

On Facebook he wrote: "My gladiator lay down his shield and gained his wings... absolutely heartbroken."

The Pope, who took a personal interest in the case, tweeted: "I am deeply moved by the death of little Alfie."

He added: "Today I pray especially for his parents, as God the Father receives him in his tender embrace."

Hundreds of supporters of Alfie's parents, known as Alfie's Army, released balloons at a park in a tribute to the toddler.

His aunt Sarah Evans thanked the crowd, saying: "Our hearts are broken. We are absolutely shattered as a family."

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Alfie's parents lost all legal challenges to a court ruling allowing the hospital to withdraw ventilation.

The boy had his life support withdrawn on Monday after being in a semi-vegetative state for more than a year.

The legal campaign, launched by Mr Evans and Alfie's mother Kate James, attracted widespread attention and saw them clash with doctors over the child's treatment.

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The case drew international support including from Pope Francis, who asked that "their desire to seek new forms of treatment may be granted".


Media captionHundreds of well-wishers gathered to release balloons in tribute
Earlier in April, Mr Evans pleaded with him to "save our son" during a meeting in Rome.

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A statement from Alder Hey Children's Hospital in Liverpool, where Alfie was treated, said staff expressed their "heartfelt sympathy".

"All of us feel deeply for Alfie, Kate, Tom and his whole family and our thoughts are with them. This has been a devastating journey for them," it said.

It asked those wishing to leave tributes to Alfie to place them at the nearby Springfield Park.

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The RC Archbishop of Liverpool, Malcolm McMahon, said: "All who have been touched by the story of this little boy's heroic struggle for life will feel this loss deeply.

"Now it is time for us to give Tom and Kate space to grieve their son's death and offer our prayers for him and consolation for all."

Everton FC tweeted: "Everybody at the Club is deeply saddened by the loss of the brave young Evertonian. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family."

The Bradley Lowery Foundation, named after the six-year-old boy who died after suffering from neuroblastoma, paid tribute to Alfie's parents, saying "they did everything they could for their little boy".

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Alfie Evans was in a "semi-vegetative state" in Alder Hey Children's Hospital
Alfie, who was born in May 2016, was first admitted to the hospital the following December after suffering seizures, and had been a patient ever since.

His parents, who live in Bootle, wanted to fly the toddler to an Italian hospital, but this was rejected by doctors who said continuing treatment was "not in Alfie's best interests".

Alder Hey Hospital said scans showed "catastrophic degradation of his brain tissue" and that further treatment was not only "futile" but also "unkind and inhumane".

The couple heavily criticised medical staff, with Mr Evans suggesting his son was a "prisoner" at the hospital and had been misdiagnosed.

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Tom Evans and Kate James contested the hospital's decision to take Alfie off life support
Hospital bosses were backed by the High Court, which ruled in their favour on 20 February, after accepting medical evidence that there was "no hope" for the youngster.

In a four-month legal battle, Alfie's parents unsuccessfully contested the ruling at the Court of Appeal, Supreme Court and European Court of Human Rights (ECHR).

Alfie was granted Italian citizenship on Monday, with the country's government saying it hoped the toddler could have an "immediate transfer to Italy".

However, two days later the Court of Appeal upheld a ruling preventing the toddler from travelling abroad after life support was withdrawn.


Media captionOn Thursday, Alfie's father Tom Evans urged campaigners to "return to your lives"
Supporters of Alfie's parents protested outside the hospital, prompting its bosses to defend staff who they said had endured a "barrage" of abuse.

On Monday, a group of protesters tried to get into the hospital after the ECHR refused to intervene.

Merseyside Police is investigating claims patients and staff had been intimidated.

On Thursday, Mr Evans thanked supporters but asked them "to go home" so the parents could build a relationship with the hospital to provide the toddler "with the dignity and comfort he needs".

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This isn't euthanasia, it's ceasing active life support, there is a huge difference.

You could be forgiven for thinking that it is as simple as choosing whether or not to flick a switch, it isn't, keeping someone alive under these circumstances requires repeated interventions, many of which are not pleasant.

When medics say things like 'it would be cruel to keep him alive' they really do mean it, and they only do it, when they have any hope that the patients condition might improve.

(it's genuinely horrific though)
 
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This isn't euthanasia, it's ceasing active life support, there is a huge difference.

You could be forgiven for thinking that is a simple as choosing whether or not to flick a switch, it isn't, keeping someone alive under these circumstances requires repeated interventions, many of which are not pleasant.

When medics say things like 'it would be cruel to keep him alive' they really do mean it, and they only do it, when they have any hope that the patients condition might improve.
Um, to make a decision to stop care is one thing. To prevent him from leaving and posting police outside of the hospital to prevent him from leaving is saying, "He needs to die and we're going to make sure it happens." He was offered a free flight and care in Poland and other countries. If it's not euthanasia, it's straight up murder.
 
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Um, to make a decision to stop care is one thing. To prevent him from leaving and posting police outside of the hospital to prevent him from leaving is saying, "He needs to die and we're going to make sure it happens." He was offered a free flight and care in Poland and other countries. If it's not euthanasia, it's straight up murder.

I understand this viewpoint, it isn't necessarily correct, it certainly isn't that simple. But on a personal emotional level, I could even share it.
 
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I'm not going to ask you to explain this statement, because it's inexplicable.

Just in case you were unaware, we are a democracy with a Conservative government.
But with socialized medicine (NHS)
 
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I'm not going to ask you to explain this statement, because it's inexplicable.

Just in case you were unaware, we are a democracy with a Conservative government.
I can respect that you're defending your country and/or socialized medicine, but can you please share with us why we're wrong about this? You're just saying we're wrong and not saying why.
 
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I can respect that you're defending your country and/or socialized medicine, but can you please share with us why we're wrong about this? You're just saying we're wrong and not saying why.
The only thing I'm defending is the truth. I don't even like this Government. If you listen to the most recent statements of Alfie's parents you will notice they have nothing but praise for the standards of care they have recieved. They are just broken, and understandably so.
 
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The only thing I'm defending is the truth. I don't even like this Government. If you listen to the most recent statements of Alfie's parents you will notice they have nothing but praise for the standards of care they have recieved. They are just broken, and understandably so.
I understand. Thank you for your reply. I will look more at their statements. Last I heard, the parents were very upset over this, but then suddenly decided to 'play ball'.
 
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I'm rather perplexed that not everyone can share in our disgust. A poor boy's parents were denied their basic right to seek out additional treatment for him, even though it would cost the government nothing and there was a hospital lined up ready to take him. The doctors were already wrong about him when they said he would die within hours of being removed from the ventilator. Who knows what else they were wrong about?
 
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muh socialism that is why the Brits killed him,
Italy and the Vatican paved the way to give him a second opinion and try to treat him. This was way beyond insanity.

The UK healthcare and legal system is horrific.
 
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I understand this viewpoint, it isn't necessarily correct, it certainly isn't that simple. But on a personal emotional level, I could even share it.
Can't imagine a hospital holding my son hostage, telling me when and when I cannot see the child. Then refuse to release him when another medical facility in another country says they will take him.

The UK proved they own their citizens.

Socialized healthcare front and center.
 
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I'm not going to ask you to explain this statement, because it's inexplicable.

Just in case you were unaware, we are a democracy with a Conservative government.

The death of 23 month old Alfie Evans is inexplicable.
 
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Italy and the Vatican paved the way to give him a second opinion and try to treat him. This was way beyond insanity.

The UK healthcare and legal system is horrific.

I agree.

What happened to little Alfie was monstrous.
 
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I can respect that you're defending your country and/or socialized medicine, but can you please share with us why we're wrong about this? You're just saying we're wrong and not saying why.

Yes of course, "muh socialism" is a totally coherent argument and demands a serious response. \s

Or it should be discarded because it is utterly without merit and incoherent.
 
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