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British embassy raised LGBT flag

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Yes, that is true, but only for those who were living under the theocracy of ancient Israel (BTW, this same fate was true for many other kinds of sins in ancient Israel too, for anyone who cursed their mother or father, for instance .. e.g. Leviticus 20:9).

The NT warnings against sins of all kinds are quite serious, of course, but they do not tell us that sinners are to be "put to death" because of them .. e.g. Matthew 5:27-30; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

--David
 
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Yes, that is true, but only for those who were living under the theocracy of ancient Israel (BTW, this same fate was true for many other kinds of sins in ancient Israel too, for anyone who cursed their mother or father, for instance .. e.g. Leviticus 20:9).

The NT warnings against sins of all kinds are quite serious, of course, but they do not tell us that sinners are to be "put to death" because of them .. e.g. Matthew 5:27-30; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

--David

Do you support LGBT
 
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Are you saying its allowed now

Outside of the church institution, yes. The situation changed in the New Testament:

"What business of mine is it to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside." -- 1 Corinthians 5:12-13


It is not the job of a Christian to force others to live like Christians.
 
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It is true that God's Word calls for that under a theocracy and in Lev 18 God said even a pagan nation would be wiped out for doing certain sins - of which that is one.

The idea of going after God and flaunting sins that He says He will wipe out even pagan nations for doing - nations with no Bible and no theocracy -- is not a "safe practice" in general.

So my question is - what do the laws of Indonesia state in such a case?
 
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Do you support LGBT

I do not support it.

But I am also not in charge of making civil laws nor in charge of setting what law gets what penalty. So I love the sinner and hate the sin. That includes praying to God that the sin-agenda fails.

Sin is slavery as we see in Eph 2, and in Romans 6. Freedom from that slavery benefits all.
 
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It is true that God's Word calls for that under a theocracy and in Lev 18 God said even a pagan nation would be wiped out for doing certain sins - of which that is one.

The idea of going after God and flaunting sins that He says He will wipe out even pagan nations for doing - nations with no Bible and no theocracy -- is not a "safe practice" in general.

So my question is - what do the laws of Indonesia state in such a case?
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It is true that God's Word calls for that under a theocracy and in Lev 18 God said even a pagan nation would be wiped out for doing certain sins - of which that is one.

The idea of going after God and flaunting sins that He says He will wipe out even pagan nations for doing - nations with no Bible and no theocracy -- is not a "safe practice" in general.

So my question is - what do the laws of Indonesia state in such a case?
 
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So anal sex is OK ?

I don't think it was ever OK in Christianity, Judaism and most main-stream religions.

It was OK among pagans, satanic cults and atheists though.
 
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So anal sex is OK ?

I don't think it was ever OK in Christianity, Judaism and most main-stream religions.

It was OK among pagans, satanic cults and atheists though.
I don't know where you're getting that proscription from.
 
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Why the British support it
What on earth are you talking about? They're flying the Pride flag to show solidarity with groups who are discriminated against. They do it globally. Other things they actively support: freedom of religion and belief; girls' education; media freedom; campaigns to tackle gender-based violence. Not all of these are popular in the countries in which embassies campaign, but they do it anyway, to show support for marginalised communities.

If people (in your eyes) are sinning, they can answer to God. They don't answer to governments, unless they are harming others.
 
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Yes, gay male sex was a capital offense in that time and place.

Neither the British nor Indonesians are Israelites, however. That time is finished.
You do realize the Indonesians are Islamic and therefore the UK raising the LGBT flag is seen as a direct insult to the Indosnesian people by the Government of the United Kingdom.


What on earth are you talking about? They're flying the Pride flag to show solidarity with groups who are discriminated against. They do it globally. Other things they actively support: freedom of religion and belief; girls' education; media freedom; campaigns to tackle gender-based violence. Not all of these are popular in the countries in which embassies campaign, but they do it anyway, to show support for marginalised communities.

If people (in your eyes) are sinning, they can answer to God. They don't answer to governments, unless they are harming others.

You must be joking if you think government in any society doesn't punish what those in power consider to be sins. It certainly is not contained to opposing those that harm others.
 
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Are you ignorant to what homosexual acts between men are?
You didn't specify what sexuality you were talking about. And nor do you appear to understand that not every gay couple behaves the way you so lewdly imagine. Sorry to break it to you.
 
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You do realize the Indonesians are Islamic and therefore the UK raising the LGBT flag is seen as a direct insult to the Indosnesian people by the Government of the United Kingdom.




You must be joking if you think government in any society doesn't punish what those in power consider to be sins. It certainly is not contained to opposing those that harm others.

Well, let's take some US hot potatoes. Why is it unlawful to drive your car in reverse on public roads in some parts of Arizona, but for Westboro Baptist Church to hold anti-gay protests at military funerals? Who are they protecting with the first and the second? How about the inability to drive a black car on a Sunday in Denver, but the ability to abort babies? I know the first one is truly scandalous, right ...? Right?
 
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You didn't specify what sexuality you were talking about. And nor do you appear to understand that not every gay couple behaves the way you so lewdly imagine. Sorry to break it to you.

I've seen people who say that it's not what every gay couple experiences disputed by a
gay male in the Christian Forums saying that anal sex and oral sex is exactly what
gay males engage in. He specified hook-up places and sites where he himself hooked up
and participated in anal sex as desired.

If not for homosexual acts, they wouldn't be considered homosexuals. Good friends who are
not homosexuals, don't engage in sexual acts with each other.
 
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