Bridging the Gap, part deux

[GreenMunchkin]

I just posted this in the WWMC forum, and I don't know how it'll pan out, but maybe we all need to start communicating more.

I can't see any of us on either side ever changing any one else's mind, but we do all need to understand one another better, so I hope some of you will get involved, as well, maybe? Praying, cos, am surprised at how nervous I am

 

[GreenMunchkin]

Any takers?

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

I just posted this in the WWMC forum, and I don't know how it'll pan out, but maybe we all need to start communicating more.

I can't see any of us on either side ever changing any one else's mind, but we do all need to understand one another better, so I hope some of you will get involved, as well, maybe? Praying, cos, am surprised at how nervous I am

I agree with you Green... And I think the success of it will be determined by how serious people are to see peace. Instead of slamming their opinions and beliefs in each others faces...perhaps we can finally come to a place where we "agree to disagree" and move on. Good idea! I don't know how much of a help I can or will be as I get so emotional and upset I can't think clearly before I post. But I will try...and at least I can pray.

 

[scraparcs]

Liberal invader here.

Well, I'm about as conservative as it gets over there, but nonetheless I still lean strongly towards using democratic processes when possible and finding God through reason, well-informed by tradition, scripture, and the Church.

That's what seems to make me liberal. I try to respect God, but I just have so much difficulty with submission to authority. I don't know where this gap comes from. I've been taught that the conservative approach is preferable. I just can't do it very well.

So, I think I'll try to observe examples of submission and try to work on it. And pray - it's all I can do.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

Thank you, lovely ladies And thank you for coming, binarier

I think, for the mosr part, most people seem to be more interested in fisticuff topics for some reason.

It's all very disheartening and what's-the-pointy.

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Thank you, lovely ladies And thank you for coming, binarier

I think, for the mosr part, most people seem to be more interested in fisticuff topics for some reason.

It's all very disheartening and what's-the-pointy.

Who's binarier?

 

[scraparcs]

0110 1011 0001

Guess who?

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

0110 1011 0001

Guess who?

Ah!

 

[Joykins]

Been poking around between here and WWMC tonight. Lel's analysis over there was very thoughtful and spot-on, I think.

I find it helps not to post under the influence of negative emotion. I have also discovered this past week it is also easy to be misunderstood or mis-express myself when tensions are running high. I like to make my points, but I would hope not to make them at the expense of the brother or sister at the other computer receiving those words.

I hope to stick around here also in the hope of building some bridges

 

[ReformedChapin]

I've talked to several liberal inviduals in the philosophy and ethics forum. I don't think we have anything in common with them what's so ever. Not to mention several "liberal christians" tend to side with athiest and pagans.

 

[Sophia7]

I just posted this in the WWMC forum, and I don't know how it'll pan out, but maybe we all need to start communicating more.

I can't see any of us on either side ever changing any one else's mind, but we do all need to understand one another better, so I hope some of you will get involved, as well, maybe? Praying, cos, am surprised at how nervous I am

Thank you for starting these threads. I think it's a great idea to open up the lines of communication.

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

I think G.M. is onto something here, and not just on something.

Although conservatives and liberals have plenty of things to disagree on, they can agree on the most important things: that we are followers of Christ first and foremost, and that love is the greatest commandment. I exempt those who are so liberal that they really aren't Christians anymore (to me, Spong seems like one of those), and those who are so conservative that they aren't either (scribes and Pharisees, oh my!), but for all of us in between, it fits.

I am myself a theological moderate (which makes me very liberal for an Assembly of God person I suppose) and a political neolibertarian who is a regular on WWMC. But I think perhaps I could fit in here too... sometimes. I want to do what I can to heal the divide. I believe in shedding light on the issues, not just heat.

 

[ReformedChapin]

I think G.M. is onto something here, and not just on something.

Although conservatives and liberals have plenty of things to disagree on, they can agree on the most important things: that we are followers of Christ first and foremost, and that love is the greatest commandment. I exempt those who are so liberal that they really aren't Christians anymore (to me, Spong seems like one of those), and those who are so conservative that they aren't either (scribes and Pharisees, oh my!), but for all of us in between, it fits.

I am myself a theological moderate (which makes me very liberal for an Assembly of God person I suppose) and a political neolibertarian who is a regular on WWMC. But I think perhaps I could fit in here too... sometimes. I want to do what I can to heal the divide. I believe in shedding light on the issues, not just heat.

Slight problem...the liberal Christ isn't the same as the biblical christ. They make him out to be some sort of hippie.

 

[Hishandmaiden]

I've talked to several liberal inviduals in the philosophy and ethics forum. I don't think we have anything in common with them what's so ever. Not to mention several "liberal christians" tend to side with athiest and pagans.

I disagree. I used to be liberal and yet I still love Jesus very much. Just that I tend to love Him even more now, so I want to follow more closely by the Bible.

I think the liberals share one common thing with us: They accept Jesus as their saviors.

By liberals, I mean those who believe Jesus is the one who saves them from their sins.

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

Slight problem...the liberal Christ isn't the same as the biblical christ. They make him out to be some sort of hippie.

I believe in the biblical one. Of course the '60s Hippy movement wasn't around when Jesus was... but then neither were Yankee Puritanism or Southern Redneckism... from which IMO entirely too much of today's American Christian subculture is derived. Same error the liberals make, in mirror image. Jesus doesn't conform to any of our 20th Century molds.

 

[Hishandmaiden]

I think G.M. is onto something here, and not just on something.

Although conservatives and liberals have plenty of things to disagree on, they can agree on the most important things: that we are followers of Christ first and foremost, and that love is the greatest commandment. I exempt those who are so liberal that they really aren't Christians anymore (to me, Spong seems like one of those), and those who are so conservative that they aren't either (scribes and Pharisees, oh my!), but for all of us in between, it fits.

I am myself a theological moderate (which makes me very liberal for an Assembly of God person I suppose) and a political neolibertarian who is a regular on WWMC. But I think perhaps I could fit in here too... sometimes. I want to do what I can to heal the divide. I believe in shedding light on the issues, not just heat.

I agree. Amen.

 

[Albion]

I disagree. I used to be liberal and yet I still loved Jesus very much. Just that I tend to love Him even more now, so I want to follow more closely by the Bible.

I think the liberals share one common thing with us: They accept Jesus as their saviors.

Yes, but this is why we have to have a definition of "conservative" here, and that it not be something so wide and broad that although it offends no one by shutting them out, it doesn't restrict the voters to conservatives.

 

[Hishandmaiden]

Keep up your work, GM!

 

[Albion]

Although conservatives and liberals have plenty of things to disagree on, they can agree on the most important things: that we are followers of Christ first and foremost, and that love is the greatest commandment.

That's a good statement of what unites Liberals and Conservatives; it doesn't do anything for finding a definition of Conservative for this forum, however, which is intended for the Conservative viewpoint, not to be a place where the two contend equally. There are several other forums for that.

 

[PostTribber]

I can't see any of us on either side ever changing any one else's mind, but we do all need to understand one another better, so I hope some of you will get involved, as well, maybe?

Jesus said it this way, "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword." He desires us to be either hot or cold, but luke warm makes Him puke. Catholisim sought to maintain unity by burning heretics. Protestants respond by burning bridges (church splits). and yet there is only One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism, etc. the liberal wants worship he can feel, the conservative wants liberals to heel, and all us in between want a salvation that's real. a 'denomination' is just another way of calling each other names. I believe what Jesus said, "when the Son of Man returns, will He find faith on the Earth?"