I was going to post this in GA, but I think that it would be more fitting here:
If Jesus told you to jump off of a bridge, would you?
If Jesus told you to jump off of a bridge, would you?
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ArchaicTruth
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well, if it really was Jesus, then hell yeah, because then I'd have proof that God exists, and by following Jesus then I would either miraculously survive, or die and go to heaven. Although being a skeptic, I'd have to get some proof first...but yeah.
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No, because Jesus would never command such.
God is eternal and His character does not change.
He would never ask us to harm ourselves.
We won't be seeing Jesus until believers are raptured, and if the rapture does not occur, as some believe will and some dont, makes me no difference.
So either the rapture or when in heaven is when we'll next see Jesus, so also impossible, as He's not coming back till one of those events occur.
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ArchaicTruth
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Uh, Jesus asked one of the disciples to walk on the water with him, isn't this the same thing?
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r1nn
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Tough question there.
Personally I would not really be obliged towards doing something out of blind faith. I really don't think Jesus would be like, "Hey, jump off this bridge or you're going to Hell!" The Jesus I know gives us commands for a reason.
If there was no reason towards jumping off the bridge, I wouldn't do it, because I know God wouldn't want me to do something without reason. I don't know what I would do in that sort of situation because you made it so vague, but I would probably question it before I did anything so absurd.
Personally I would not really be obliged towards doing something out of blind faith. I really don't think Jesus would be like, "Hey, jump off this bridge or you're going to Hell!" The Jesus I know gives us commands for a reason.
If there was no reason towards jumping off the bridge, I wouldn't do it, because I know God wouldn't want me to do something without reason. I don't know what I would do in that sort of situation because you made it so vague, but I would probably question it before I did anything so absurd.
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r1nn
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Yeah, but at the time there was an obvious reason for it.
It was a test, something the Rabbis during that time would follow through to their students as well. Jesus was putting Peter's faith to the test. Since Peter said then that he did believe that God would get him through anything, Jesus was willing to let him have that godly experience with him when he told him to get out of the boat.
What possible reason would Jesus tell any us to jump off a bridge for? Really, I don't see one. The situation the original poster presented was too vague to really seek out a definite "yes" for me anyway.
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Solidlyhere
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"If Jesus told you to jump off of a bridge, would you?"
Well, up to now, Jesus has never bothered to appear in front of me and talk.
If Jesus DID, I would ask Him WHY I am supposed to jump off the bridge.
It may well be that Jesus was planning to take me Home.
I could either have a massive Heart Attack, or jump off (and have an exciting trip down).
Between those 2 choices, I would be jumping (and do a Swan Dive while I'm at it).
Yeah, we all gotta die sometime.
Or, who knows, Jesus might have me try it to demonstate anti-Gravity.
Then, as I float around, I'll have the time of my Life.
Well, up to now, Jesus has never bothered to appear in front of me and talk.
If Jesus DID, I would ask Him WHY I am supposed to jump off the bridge.
It may well be that Jesus was planning to take me Home.
I could either have a massive Heart Attack, or jump off (and have an exciting trip down).
Between those 2 choices, I would be jumping (and do a Swan Dive while I'm at it).
Yeah, we all gotta die sometime.
Or, who knows, Jesus might have me try it to demonstate anti-Gravity.
Then, as I float around, I'll have the time of my Life.
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As God is not physically with us as was with the apostles in that instance that is different.
God would never command us to jump off a bridge, even if he were here tomorrow.
And since Jesus will not be with us until the rapture or judgement (except that He does indwell us now), anyone so believing Christ would ask such is listening to demons...
Again, God was with the apostles, physically and would not let them drown, as occured.
critical to know that Jesus will either rapture us, and he won't then be on earth, we will be brought by him to heaven, and next time is the 1000 year reign.
He will be here during end times during millenial reign but we wont' be there..when rapture indeed occurs all believers will be removed before tribulation starts and removed by Jesus, He wont be on earth, He will gather us up..
Otherwise, mankind will not see Jesus till the millenial reign..1000 year reign.
So, good to know such, so can never be decieved.
I know op was hypothetical, but have to go by the truth and truth is He won't be here until I'm either raptured or I'll be with Him at death if rapture doesn't occur first.
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That's right, He would not!
Asked Abraham in the OT.
Note God didn't allow it to occur.
So, way off friend.
Again, won't be back till 1000 year reign.. We alive now, will not be there.
Though, we hear today, some kill their kids thinking God told them too, or beat them, starve them, etc, cause think as Christians doing right thing... sickos.
Thats why it's critical know Gods word, and know who He is.
take care,
tapero
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We don't know what God expected as is not written. When God commands, all men have the free will to say no or yes or later. So as to Gods expectations it's not written.
Here's portions:
This is what occured.
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If Jesus asked me to jump off a bridge, I'd thank him and do it. This life is full of trouble anyway- at his word, I'd know I had accomplished everything I needed to.
As to the Abraham story, I understand it as a mythic-history explaining why the Hebrews didn't sacrifice their children, unlike their neighbors in every direction and indeed most of the ancient near east, ie, we aren't too weak to give up our sons, look at our Patriarch who almost did, we just worship a God who doesn't demand that of us.
As to the Abraham story, I understand it as a mythic-history explaining why the Hebrews didn't sacrifice their children, unlike their neighbors in every direction and indeed most of the ancient near east, ie, we aren't too weak to give up our sons, look at our Patriarch who almost did, we just worship a God who doesn't demand that of us.
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lawtonfogle
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So you are saying he never gave us the commission to go out to the world, including the places where you can be killed for not following their faith?
Don't get me wrong, God wishes the best for us, we just need to realize that best for us != best for our physical being.
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Hi, no I am not saying that at all, please not the posts and replies and the topic above is not included at all.
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R3quiem
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As for Abraham and Isaac, it was the mindset that mattered. For all Abraham knew, God wanted him to kill his son. The fact that God didn't really want that to happen and stopped it doesn't play a role here, because before he stopped Abraham, Abraham was entirely ready to go through with it without question. He thought that God really wanted him to kill his son.
Because the only reason God wanted the sacrifice was to test Abraham, the OP is a very reasonable question. Jesus asking you to jump off a bridge is no different than God asking you to sacrifice your son.
Because the only reason God wanted the sacrifice was to test Abraham, the OP is a very reasonable question. Jesus asking you to jump off a bridge is no different than God asking you to sacrifice your son.
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ArchaicTruth
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On the contrary, its a very different question. I could take a bullet for another person in an instant, but to kill another, especially innocent, is something else quite entirely.
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R3quiem
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Would you kill your best friend if God asked you to?
Deuteronomy 13:6-11
If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
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