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Breaking: Venezuela attacked by U.S. Update: Maduro and wife captured.

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No, so we aren't at war with anyone. We haven't started any war either.
Did anyone claim otherwise?
We initiated an act of war. Thats "war". Fortunately the enemy is incapable of striking back, and so hopefully violence ends there.

But using force to depose and kidnap a head of state is absolutely an act of war.
 
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We initiated an act of war. Thats "war". Fortunately the enemy is incapable of striking back, and so hopefully violence ends there.

But using force to depose and kidnap a head of state is absolutely an act of war.
I agree - I'm just addressing pedantry.
 
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I guess the rest of the world knew it as well?
There was hardly any reporting on how Cheney was going to CIA all the time to in person ensure the (sketchy) WMD supporting intel was advanced while the considerable countervailing intel was squashed.

Did Bush really have a grasp of all that? Quite possibly not. He may have just been the dupe the neocons rode in on. Him and his voters too.
 
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No, so we aren't at war with anyone. We haven't started any war either.

Right, it's simply a law enforcement action.....that happened to use some 150 military aircraft to carry out.

Will a 2nd, larger strike occur later tonight? Or the night after?
Will more VE government officials be taken?
He claims he will "run the country" until a peaceful transition can occur.

But yea, we are not at war. So rest easy right?
 
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...wow, what drug did they administer to make him look so young?
I guess I posted the wrong picture, I've been up since 0520 Saturday and finally get to go to sleep. I bought some ships coins before they change the design. Here is my ships current challenge coin.
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Notification to certain committees or committee members in congress has occurred in similar situations without problem. It would be the normal thing to do.

The reason for a president to do it is to demonstrate that he has the slightest regard for the way the US constitution assigns and limits the powers of the various branches of govt.
As far as I know we don't have a list of who Trump kept in the loop.
 
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