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Bradley Manning

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Ok, a dude with a girls name, whatever. He'll still be a man however hacked up and hormoned up he gets.

Well that's your opinion...

As to the video, it sounds awful. I don't know for sure what I would have done if I had witnessed all of that.
 
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But it is true. Period.


Chelsea Manning exposed war crimes committed by dishonorable individuals. She has paid the price for exposing "moral horrors".

My Noise Effective reply is communicated in the form of a quote by Salon contributor Justin Doolittle.


“Idealism” is a great word with an honorable history. Traditionally, the term has invoked thoughts of young college students who want to make the world a better place, or great activists and movement leaders who believed they could achieve the impossible. Bradley Manning represents a perfect example of real, non-Orwellian idealism at work: someone who, at tremendous personal risk, exposed moral horrors that he thought citizens of the world should know about, in the hope that it might bring about enlightenment and change. But Bradley Manning is not representative of elites’ conception of idealism. Now, this term is reserved for cheerleaders for death and destruction, like Wolfowitz and Rice.

It’s also bestowed on outright war criminals;Tony Blair found himself in awe of George W. Bush’s “true idealism.” When a single term is employed by a significant number of people to describe both both Bradley Manning and George Bush, both Martin Luther King and Paul Wolfowitz, said term has obviously lost all of its meaning. Maybe the “pragmatic” thing to do would be to just accept the loss of this formerly meaningful and inspirational word.
 
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I honestly don't know enough about this, but it sounds to me like Manning did the right thing, and doesn't deserve what has happened and will happen to him.

I do not know enough of what I would like to know. I want to read Chase Madar's book The Passion of Bradley Manning.

This is a link to the Guy Smallman interview about the Granai massacre.


ZCommunications | Granai massacre: interview with Guy Smallman by Ian Sinclair | ZNet Article

Manning's superiors spoke highly of her. Manning had a passion for her duties that those working alongside her commended. The extra quality Manning asserted has face value. Respect. Respect for individuals who love their family members and friends and who strive to interact socially, politically, aiming to experience warmth and bonding or to set the standard---as we do when we care for our own, our pets, our projects. For putting in our hands documentation of war crimes, respect for the U.S. is shown.
 
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Chelsea Manning exposed war crimes committed by dishonorable individuals. She has paid the price for exposing "moral horrors".
Who was subsequently charged and convicted of said war crimes?
 
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