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The fact that nobody has yet to claim and responsibility makes it feel less like terrorism. There's no point in committing an act of terror unless it's pretty obvious why the attack was made

Wasn't it a couple of weeks after 911 before they figured out it was al qaeda?
 
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...and I imagine you believe the fact that Tim McVeigh bombed the Federal Office that directed the Waco Massacre, on the anniversary of the massacre, had nothing to do with why McVeigh did the bombing?.....
Tax Day.
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Duh.
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This is awful. It's awful how the authorities know next to nothing about who did it and why. My thoughts and prayers are with the Boston people, I know they can overcome this and will not be terrorized.
I hope this doesnt just make people stay home instead of attending public events. I remember standing near pretty big crowds in 2008 when your Queen paraded to Parliament for the opening.
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Tax Day.
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Duh.
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I presume "Duh" is supposed to mean I'm stupid. If that's the case, you might want to listen to a


As for "Tax Day", yes, I thought of it -- long before I even knew Massachusetts had a Patriot Day celebration in April. I paid my taxes at the last minute, so the date was etched in my mind. It COULD have been a symbolic day, if the target were Congress or an IRS office. It wasn't. Patriot Day in MA commemorates the battles of Lexington and Concord, fought in Metro Boston, that began the American Revolution. The symbolism there was not taxes, but America -- which ought to have tipped off nearly EVERYONE here that it was enemies of America who perpetrated this attack.

The suspects have not been aprehended yet, so you still have time to heckle about this; but when they are arraigned, be prepared to backpedal in my direction. Plenty of big egos here have been lambasting me; but they have been wrong. Because they have been wrong, I would like to see them have to eat crow -- which they will do, along with lying cover-ups.

Shalom shalom :wave:
 
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Come at me?? Why on earth would I want to do that?

If you want me to "shut up", you're going to have to make me, somehow.

I'm glad people are finally coming around to the fact that this was a terrorist attack instead of a "lone wolf" operation. Maybe in a few years, they will accept the fact that it wasn't the work of a Fundamentalist Christian (aka a "crazy").

It might have been, and it might NOT have been. We just don't know yet.

Captain, please explain to me, why you think this was "amateurish".

Simple: It was made of readily available materials, according to instructions that aren't that hard to find on the Internet. It wasn't timed for maximum damage (which would probably have been when the winners were likely to come through.)
And it was just plain inefficient, if, like al-Qaida, the aim was to kill as many people as possible. A better target would have public transportation, airports, hotels, etc. Places with structural weaknesses that can be exploited to collapse the buildings and cause more damage with less effort.
Of course, in order to pull off such an attack, you need the coordination abilities and resources of a major organization (al-Qaida). If you don't have that, your scope is much more limited - such as contructing a bomb out of gunpowder and duct tape, based on something you found on the Internet.

The bomb was made according to directions spelled out by Al Qaeda,

See above.

the case has law enforcement officers baffled after three days;

The fact that they haven't made an arrest yet, is not "baffled". They apparently have a number of clues they're pursuing.

and if the attackers wanted to demonstrate their power over America, as they did on 9/11, they are doing a pretty good job of it.

That's the aim of EVERYONE who carries out an attack like this, not just al-Qaida.
 
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I presume "Duh" is supposed to mean I'm stupid. If that's the case, you might want to listen to a


As for "Tax Day", yes, I thought of it -- long before I even knew Massachusetts had a Patriot Day celebration in April. I paid my taxes at the last minute, so the date was etched in my mind. It COULD have been a symbolic day, if the target were Congress or an IRS office. It wasn't. Patriot Day in MA commemorates the battles of Lexington and Concord, fought in Metro Boston, that began the American Revolution. The symbolism there was not taxes, but America -- which ought to have tipped off nearly EVERYONE here that it was enemies of America who perpetrated this attack.

The suspects have not been aprehended yet, so you still have time to heckle about this; but when they are arraigned, be prepared to backpedal in my direction. Plenty of big egos here have been lambasting me; but they have been wrong. Because they have been wrong, I would like to see them have to eat crow -- which they will do, along with lying cover-ups.

Shalom shalom :wave:
Im not attached to any particular explanation. Theres nowhere for me to backpedal from.
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No, he speaks as someone who thinks about as highly about this whole number-fetish people seem to have going on here, as he does about the ridiculous conspiracy theories about how the moon landing is a fake, how Elvis is still alive, etc.

You would have a point, except Islamic Terrorist groups tend to have a number fetish. Lots of terrorists do. As Bland pointed out, the OKC bombing was revenge for the Branch Davidians.
 
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Im not attached to any particular explanation. Theres nowhere for me to backpedal from.
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And most reasonable people are not at this point.

Those deciding ONE of the possibilities is right while several others still remain are the jerks. Oh one set will get lucky. But far more will be shown wrong (and most of them will NOT backpedal, they will simply remain silent about their error).

Someone pointing out other POSSIBILITIES is not saying that any one of them is right, just that they are still on the table.
 
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Meh, I'm not convinced it was a terrorist attack. We really won't know that until we know who did it and why. If it was just a nut or two who felt like killing/maiming a bunch of people because, well, why the hell not (a la Newtown)? Then I wouldn't classify it as terrorism. I agree it's unlikely that someone would use this sort of tactic "just because". That's something I'd expect them to use a gun for and just go out in a blaze of "glory". It's still, IMO, premature to really call it terrorism.

The fact that nobody has yet to claim and responsibility makes it feel less like terrorism. There's no point in committing an act of terror unless it's pretty obvious why the attack was made

Uh, seems to me like you are redefining terrorism. Now if you added the adjective political terrorism I would agree. But the very nature of the attack and the seeming lack of a specific target makes it fit as terrorism.
 
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...That's the aim of EVERYONE who carries out an attack like this, not just al-Qaida.

Bingo, even if they are random nuts. As pulling off something like that is going to give them a sense of power.
 
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Uh, seems to me like you are redefining terrorism. Now if you added the adjective political terrorism I would agree. But the very nature of the attack and the seeming lack of a specific target makes it fit as terrorism.

I disagree. "Terrorism" has, to my knowledge, been historically used under the context of some sort of political motivation.
 
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From Gawker:


After its embarrassing performance on Monday in the aftermath of the marathon bombings, has the Post redeemed itself by scooping the first, much-discussed photos of the suspects?
No. As CBS' John Miller reports, neither man is likely to be a suspect in the bombings, and these are not the pictures of the possible suspects that authorities plan on releasing. But I didn't need John Miller to tell me that— the "persons of interest" in the photos are two local kids who had already been checked out by Reddit and other message-board "crowd-sleuthing" efforts yesterday, and found to be a incredibly unlikely suspects.
 
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From Gawker:


After its embarrassing performance on Monday in the aftermath of the marathon bombings, has the Post redeemed itself by scooping the first, much-discussed photos of the suspects?
No. As CBS' John Miller reports, neither man is likely to be a suspect in the bombings, and these are not the pictures of the possible suspects that authorities plan on releasing. But I didn't need John Miller to tell me that— the "persons of interest" in the photos are two local kids who had already been checked out by Reddit and other message-board "crowd-sleuthing" efforts yesterday, and found to be a incredibly unlikely suspects.

NYP is really doing itself a disservice by not fact checking this stuff out. :doh:

CNN also said there were arrests yesterday when there wasn't...although I think they got this mixed up with the ricin case.
 
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NYP is really doing itself a disservice by not fact checking this stuff out. :doh:

CNN also said there were arrests yesterday when there wasn't...although I think they got this mixed up with the ricin case.

The Post is a tabloid, not a newspaper.
 
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From Gawker:


After its embarrassing performance on Monday in the aftermath of the marathon bombings, has the Post redeemed itself by scooping the first, much-discussed photos of the suspects?
No. As CBS' John Miller reports, neither man is likely to be a suspect in the bombings, and these are not the pictures of the possible suspects that authorities plan on releasing. But I didn't need John Miller to tell me that— the "persons of interest" in the photos are two local kids who had already been checked out by Reddit and other message-board "crowd-sleuthing" efforts yesterday, and found to be a incredibly unlikely suspects.

Yeah, stupid rag. :unbelievable:
 
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